Monday, December 19, 2005

CIA'S POLISH CONCENTRATION CAMP LOCATED

MARC GOERGEN, STERN, GERMANY - The CIA is apparently using a training center run by Polish intelligence in order to question al-Qaeda prisoners. As Stern has learned, there are now more indications that that this intelligence camp near Kiejkuty is used as a base by the Americans. According to statements by a high-ranking Polish intelligence officer from Kiejkuty, Americans have lived on the premises for months on end during the past five or six years. At the time, a 50x100 yard interior area, where the perimeter was protected by barbed wire and a 10-foot-high wall, was also erected within the one-by-two mile facility.

Regular Polish intelligence employees had no access to this inner area, but the Americans apparently did. Furthermore, there were small cars with tinted windows parked at the camp site. The same kind of cars that employees at Szymany Airport told Stern were always driven to CIA airplanes, which were waiting with engines running at the end of the runway.
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49 Comments:

At December 19, 2005 5:04 PM, Anonymous said...

How is it "located"? Where is any evidence of tortured persons there?

 
At December 19, 2005 5:21 PM, Anonymous said...

U DONT ASK QUESTIONS LIKE THIS WHEN ZIONISTS CLAIM THAT 6 MILLION PEOPLE DIES IN HOLOCAUST DO YOU?

 
At December 19, 2005 5:21 PM, Anonymous said...

If I was an American I'd be a little more worried about who's gonna fill all them barbed wire vacation camp getaways that dot all around America. By the way things are headed I'd say anyone on the anti-neo-con spy list will be tossed in their soon enough.

 
At December 19, 2005 5:28 PM, todd said...

It's safe to say the grain of salt must be saved for when Bush speaks. No credibility whatsoever. In fact, Bush makes it easy to learn things. Anything he says, the opposite is the truth. If Bush says it's going to rain then pack your picnic basket. If he says it's hot, don't forget your mink coat!

 
At December 19, 2005 6:19 PM, ISRAOIL said...

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At December 19, 2005 6:48 PM, Anonymous said...

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At December 19, 2005 6:53 PM, Anonymous said...

I sure can't wait for the day I see Bush hanging from a tree near The Hill broadcast on CNN. I think I'll open a bottle of champaigne that day. And I'm a hard-core conservative.

 
At December 19, 2005 7:13 PM, Low Profile in Miyami said...

If the report that the camp has been located, Poland is in deep dodo with the European Union.

For you boring fanatical zionists, enough with the holocaust already, it's the biggest historical fraud ever; and no one is even allowed to question why the different numbers, the lack of physical evidence and conflicting eyewitness testimony.

 
At December 19, 2005 7:20 PM, Low Profile in Miyami said...

Ditto to the hard core conservative. Hoping the justice system gears up and clean up the traitors/terrorists/anti-americans that currently mis-govern this nation for the benefit of the decendants of kazhars ilegally occupying Palestine.

 
At December 19, 2005 7:43 PM, Baz said...

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At December 19, 2005 8:08 PM, Anonymous said...

"low profile", you're being naive. The EU secretly authorized the cia flights, and use of rendition european structures. Documents got leaked, that prove it (authorization was given in 2003).
Documents can be found there :
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2005/dec/05eu-usa-flights.htm

EU governments are working hand in hand with the nwo-cons, although concealing it.

 
At December 19, 2005 8:18 PM, cindy_bin_2006 said...

You know, when people like George Bush start talking macho like they're James Bond, it's a turkey shoot to bring them down.

If Americans are indeed making soap, shower curtains and lampshades out of these terrorists, why are there so many soldiers dying in Iraq? Why aren't we successfully containing the resistance with the plethora of information that's being obtaining by showing these people their mother's head in a fishtank?

I'm waiting, but not at all holding my breath.

 
At December 19, 2005 8:54 PM, mars said...

ISRAOIL hates Polish people with a passion. He is probably one of those jews (or a son of) who fled Poland in hundred of thousends after commiting mass murders on this nation in years 1945-1956.
German concentration camps were located in Poland because this was a country with the largest number of jews in the world (called judeopolonia or jew's haven) - only idiot would build camps far away and transport jews there...
While other countries kicked them out, Poland always wellcomed them and in the end was so nicely paid for this hospitality (jewish style!)- after II WW Stalin set up in Poland communist repression aparatus which was 90% jewish. They killed and tortured hudreds of thousands of Poland's patriots and solders - veterans of anti-Hitler coalition.
Zionist CIA camp in Poland (if this is actually truth) could only be set up there with the knowledge of Polands president half-jew Aleksander Kwasniewski (his real name is Stolzman, son of jewish war criminal), and some oficials in Poland's ex-goverment (ex communists) of jewish descent (including secret service)

 
At December 19, 2005 8:56 PM, Anonymous said...

I can’t believe someone would have to audacity to talk about polish citizens helping Nazis to kill Jews. Let us not forget about the millions of Polish citizens who died trying to save Jewish lives. Secondly, lets see how many Polish Jews actually joined the Polish Army to defend their nation.

 
At December 19, 2005 10:47 PM, Anonymous said...

Comments about Jewish/Polish relations like those above are very easy to make, when you know very little about the actual history of Jewish/Polish conflict. I find the more I know about the state of relations between Jews and Poles in the late 19th and early 20th centuries the better I understand what happened during WWII and the less likely I am to condemn the Poles. Jews aren't always, or perhaps even very often, the innocent victims most history books seem to make them out to be.

 
At December 19, 2005 11:05 PM, Anonymous said...

Americans are not worried about those 600 barb wire vacation camps that are around our country.

We have 300 million dumb ass rednecks that are armed to the gills and anybody that tries to mess with our guns is going to die quickly.

If you think our army will help the government you are wrong. They all say they are lying when they say they will shoot americans if ordered.

People in america are getting pissed off and the government knows it and they are getting scared and that is obvious.

It will only take a spark to ignite a revolution in america at this point.

The war in Iraq had everything to do with trading oil for euros and we know it.

The USA is finished and we can thank the Jews that infilterted our government and run our money supply for that.

Learn from our mistakes!

 
At December 19, 2005 11:15 PM, Prescott Sheldon Bush---Auschwitz's NYC business manager said...

Applause for Bush capital/Capitol punishment comment from one of the wiser Anonymouses. Applause for both low profile and the response from the StateWatch Anonymous. You all have figured out how to analyze and reject the daily propaganda to seek the truth.

The bosses of the President of the USA are the bosses of the Prime Minister of Great Britain and the Chancellor of Germany (and have been since some time around WWI, right down to the same surnames).

There was a failed plan that Hitler's bosses had for how WWII was supposed to turn out. That plan has largely been resurrected with USA filling the WWII Germany role. Following PNAC's numbering scheme, this World War IV that we are now in merely the first stages of will make WWII look like a picnic in the park. (The Soviet-American Cold War was WWIII according to PNAC signatory and former CIA director James Woolsey.)

Look forward to: 1) Zionist-directed American-performed invasions of Iraq and Syria for sure and possibly Saudi Arabia, which cause Russia to enter WWIV against the USA with China & EU forced to make tough choices regarding which side to take and how to obtain petroleum; 2) race-based genocide weapons that implement a true Multi-holocaust to eliminate all the "lesser" races [PNAC describes genotype-based biological weaponry as a "politically useful tool".]; 3) USA's use of race-based genocide weapons to eliminate the mass population of the enemy in WWIV; 4) USA's use of space-based satellite-knockers to cause re-entry of enemy satellites, especially the EU's/China's Galileo GPS system; 5) USA's use of pinpoint microwave heating weapons from space to assassinate noncompliant world leaders; 6) USA's use of genocide weapons to depopulate the world down to around 1 billion people to solve the Peak Oil petroleum-exhaustion problem and alleviate the climate-change problem; 7) foreclosure & bankruptcy laws used to create a new colonist class that can easily be re-assigned (by courts or by conscription) to repopulate genocided China [for factories] and genocided Arabia/Persia [for oil] and genocided Africa [for mining]; 8) a general reversion back several centuries to a colonial empire with the America/Britain/Israel axis as the imperial rulers; and 9) an East-German-STASI-like massively-expanded CALEA/Echelon for all communications systems in industrialized countries for surveillance & eradication of undesirables in the new Empire.

 
At December 19, 2005 11:21 PM, Prescott Sheldon Bush---Auschwitz's NYC business manager said...

...Zionist-directed American-performed invasions of Iran and Syria for sure...

Sorry, I was distracted counting the gold bars from the melted-down gold teeth of my Auschwitz slave-labors that form the bulk of the Bush family wealth in the blind trust.

 
At December 19, 2005 11:27 PM, Anonymous said...

The histroy you will never learn in school...

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

 
At December 19, 2005 11:36 PM, Anonymous said...

Poles learned during WWII how bad the Nazis were, how bad it is to live in a state torturing people to death by the thousands. So I usually expect that Poles, like other Europeans, understand better than most others just how bad that kind of inhuman behavior is, especially living with the comparable treatment by Soviets for the intervening half century.

But then I read comments by people in this thread, where it is revealed that the US is torturing people in Polish camps. With possible, even likely, cooperation by the Polish government. Posts which ignore the outrage at hand, instead turning this thread into aggressive holocaust denial Jew-hating. Both are antisemitic, ignoring torture of Arabs and denying torture of Jews. These people are those who make Poland the country of choice for the torturing country of the moment to set up operations. Spewing lies and hatred make it more obvious how true is the history of Polish torture of abused people, denied by so many Poles during and after the crimes. And it makes it harder for the rest of the Poles, usually the majority, who have to live with these torturers, to live it down, and act like humans instead of bloodthirsty animals. Those Poles have my sympathy, and the support of the rest of us who welcome their efforts to expose their compatriots.

 
At December 19, 2005 11:39 PM, Anonymous said...

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At December 20, 2005 12:08 AM, Torture Is Shameful said...

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At December 20, 2005 1:24 AM, Anonymous said...

JAILHOUSE ROCK

Those criminals who are working within the government will be in their own cells soon enough. For many years I served as part of security for stadium concerts that was provided by a private firm.
I think I can safetly say rock stars and politicians are worthy of comparrison.

Both love the cheer of the crowd but many bow to the power of money. Ego's will start to clash, the monkies they shoulder turn into whispering demons that often leads to members controlling others aspirations with holier than thou visions of grandeur and illusion.

George Bush is to politics what Axel Rose is to music. The front man , fuck-you , my way or the highway decadent mannerisms drives all to no where. I've seen heavy metal bands go from sharing the same women and rooms on one tour. Then driven to shows in separate limo's the next.

We have sat back and watched the infighting and distrust that is ever growing amongst those in the not so clean WhiteHouse. And their smelly, dirty laundry is starting to show on their 2nd "authoritarian" tour. And if my observations are correct and my hindsight is still 20/20. The tour bus is rolling off the highway to hell and headed for the off ramp and bound for a prison building.

 
At December 20, 2005 1:29 AM, Anonymous said...

Now that the CIA have their concentration camps in Poland, will they get Halliburton to build the gas chambers and ovens?

 
At December 20, 2005 1:38 AM, Anonymous said...

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At December 20, 2005 2:22 AM, Anonymous said...

So i've just begun to learn about what my government is doing, and every day i grow sicker. Although i'ts like giving up, I want to leave this country. I cannot stand the thought of being here for much longer. I am responsible for what my government is doing. Apathy has been cultivated here, so the anger is there, but it will probably not turn into action.

The rest of the world has their problems, and many countries treat their citizens poorly, but the US is doing it to the rest of the world. My country is dying, and it's going to take the world with it.

How can I help? Should I fight or run? So many questions...So much to learn...

 
At December 20, 2005 3:19 AM, Anonymous said...

History has proven that no matter how many people or how many hundreds of years it takes to build a dynasty, it falls within months just when it seems to be reaching it's full power. Want to know what to do? Just ask Condi Rice. She knows the "devil is in the details" and when you sell your souls to allow for world power and control and then fail to meet the devils demands, then he'll come to collect. When good people do nothing they sentence all to death.

 
At December 20, 2005 5:18 AM, Anonymous said...

To ISRAOIL and other sh!t disturbers,
It is very arrogant to say that Poles took part in holocaust of Jews. Definitely, there is a number of Jews who hate Poles. The reason is that Poland befero the war and during 50 years of communism didn't allow them to buid their country on its territory. This carefull prepared plan to "take over" Poland was created by the Jews 150 years ago and it was called Judeopolonia. This is a historical fact. Since then, the Jews did everything possible to fulfill this plan. However, IIWW interrupted this plan and the communist tottalitarian regime didn't allow this plan to take place. Most of Jews left Poland in 1968, leaving thir real estate behind. Of course they were not "thrown away" but because of hard conditions of living helped them to make this decision. Number of them went to Israel and the USA. As a matter of fact it is Poles who suffer "betrayal" from the Jews, who had in Poland very comfortable living for centiries (do not forget that only in Poland Jews could appreciate existance of Kneset - all other countries never allowed that in their territory). Now, during the 80' and 90' Poland experiences high degree of attacs from number of Jewish owned media and Jewish organizations. They still remember how comfortable was living in Poland. Polish people for centuries were known for their peaceful and soft characters, very tollerant, democratic and honorous. When king Kazimir the Great went for a visit to Pensilvania (part of Romania at that time part of Polan), he was greated by representatives of 6 religions. Also, Poland can pride itself on being the second after the USA constitution and the first one in Europe.
So, before you start discussion, do some homework, read some historic books (such as Norman Davies on history of Poland) instead of rehashing some illiterate statements published by non-educated people.

 
At December 20, 2005 5:19 AM, Andy Hansen said...

Why are so many people surprised by all this?

Hasn't anybody here read Howard Zinn?

And what's with all the infighting and the anti-semitism in some of these posts? Wow!

 
At December 20, 2005 5:45 AM, freeman said...

Why are we wasting our efforts shouting and screaming. It is time my friends to unite now or die we all live and have no choice on how to live ouur lives as that is chosen the minute we are born. however we can choose the way and time we die and I believe it is time the people of our world stood up together and formed a revolution that has not been orchestrated by the neocons

 
At December 20, 2005 5:53 AM, freeman said...

There is truth that some people of Jewish origin are part of this conspiracy, that is leading to suffering on a scale that we can not fatom, it is also true that there is a selection of every race colour, creed and religion as part of the evil plan that has us running for cover. Please do not fall under the double spell of illusion to think this is a JEWISH ONLY conspiracy. The term jewish has been misused over the last few centuries as jew truly means not a term for a race or religion but the term for someone who has submitted to the true searching of spirit. It is a warped and perverted use of the ideology of judasim and christianity, islam and hinduism and dont forget bhudism that has us so easily falling under that old spell of hatred and loathing. Those that control our very lives want us to hate each other to the point that they say draft we say give me a gun and where are the b********

 
At December 20, 2005 5:59 AM, freeman said...

Please all who wish to break the circle of death that we are trapped in leave a blog and I will respond together brothers we will rise and break these chains of mental slavery. One man can not do a thing but it starts here on this blog site this is where the revolution came to start the spark that ignited the flame that created the fire that burn out of control and freed the world.

You can use your blog name if you believe in your comments. We need intellectual debate and ideas on how to move forward and remove these that have been corrupted by power. Please do not hate George bush, jews or muslims only pity those that have led them astray.

 
At December 20, 2005 6:07 AM, freeman said...

As all of my blogger brothers are asleep I will write away. WE need a decisive plan we need to:
1) have all of the evidence on all of these people that control us.
2)We need to make sure that any sites or articles or anything that can be used to show the general public that these leaders are liars. Be saved and sent to one place this site.
3) We alll neeed to talk to our friends have no fear and we need to tell them do they wish to ignore what is happeneing because soon it will escalate and the next phase may come.
4) We need to share IDEAS ON HOW TO ORGANISE RESISTANCE
5) OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE DIEING WHILST WE ARGUE
6) WE HAVE NO TIME NOW AND MUST TAKE ACTION OUR COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY TRAITORS AND PEOPLE THAT COMMIT MASS TREASON.

 
At December 20, 2005 6:11 AM, Anonymous said...

A COUNTRY IS DEFINED BY THE POULATION THAT RESIDES WITHIN ITS BORDERS AND A GOVERNMENT IS SET UP TO PROTECT THE INERESTS OF THOSE THAT RESIDE WITHIN THE COUNTRY.
Well its time we took this place back. Somehow it has been taken from the people. We must remember the governments are protected by The people that are dressed in uniform being paid minimum wages. The army will always follow the people and the police will always protect the state it is now time to rise.

 
At December 20, 2005 7:01 AM, JayCee said...

The most frightening thing about all of these Bush evil-doings is how many are willing to be enablers.

Friends don't let friends destroy their countries.

 
At December 20, 2005 9:17 AM, "ol" pete said...

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At December 20, 2005 1:07 PM, "ol" Pete said...

My post has been removed by the blog administer! OK, I can take it! ;-)

 
At December 20, 2005 1:42 PM, Anonymous said...

this from an old Polish Armenian: Yeah I have issues.

let's not forget what bush said on Dec 18 2000.

"if this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier- just so long as I'm the dictator."

if he wants to torture, he'll torture. If he wants to spy on his own people, he will. If he wants to keep a list of 10,000 enemies of his rule, he will. He only does this because the republican controlled congress is more loyal to him than to our constitution.

 
At December 20, 2005 3:59 PM, Anonymeme said...

It may be considered ironic that the business men involved in the nazi regime serving as informants to the British and American authorities in the run up to WWII were also tortured and murdered in post war interrogation camps, like the ones described. Even more ironic that many nazis passed into the CIA which was created to protect them.

The camps and interrogation centres have a long history. For instance, how did they know to train special ops people in facing torture methods weeks into the war?

So we have severed an historic link using these camps to inside knowledge on how "allies" may have been deeply involved in stoking the fires of a global conflict.

Perhaps this is the purpose they serve, regardless of the persuasion.

 
At December 20, 2005 4:27 PM, Progressive in Action said...

Jews have historically fought for justice, and voted predominently for Democrats. In 2004, just as in years past, 75% of us voted for the Democrat, John Kerry. Although we are only about 3% of the U.S. population, we are more than 3% of activist progressives.

Instead of hanging William Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz and other neocons around our necks, I invite you to join us on the front lines in the battle for progressive values and against the illegal, immoral republican agenda.

I'm county Democratic Party chair, Congressional District Director, and I work every day to make our society more just for all, here and abroad.

Forgive me for asking, but what exactly are the anti-semitic contributors here doing to hold the neocons accountable, and to make a real difference today?

 
At December 20, 2005 7:03 PM, Anonymous said...

STOP THE INFIGHTING Jews are not the enemy nor any other group of common people. Here is the root of all our problems:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm


The Illuminati (a.k.a. Neocon, CFR, Freemasons, etc.,) will still be here even after Bush is gone. Rational people must focus on eliminating the concept of Imperialism. Slavery was here before Bush; Native American Genocide was here before Bush. Senseless wars with Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Panama, etc. were here before Bush. Since American Airlines and United Airlines were complicit in 9-11, why are they still in business? Are you aware that the US “Shadow Government” created 9-11, 3-11, and 7-7. Have you cancelled your subscription to Popular Mechanics? Do you still buy your local newspaper even though it helped Bush lie to you about 9-11 and WMD? If you support them or any business that aids the Illuminati (look them up) agenda then you are part of the problem. If the police learn the truth, they will not arrest peaceful protestors. If young soldiers learn the truth, they will not fight in corporate wars. And you as a citizen, if you learn the truth, will no longer support Illuminati corporate profits (e.g. Carlyle, Exxon, sponsors of Neocon shows, GM, GE, Ford, all twelve “Federal Reserve Banks”, etc.) And don’t forget to replace EVERYONE currently in any public office. Here is what a Rothschild executive has to say, this is treason:
"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002

 
At December 20, 2005 8:03 PM, Anonymous said...

The US is good at improving things. Look what they did with Abu Ghraib in Iraq. Saddam's torture was mean and naughty. American torture is about freedom and Jesus and human rights. And if you disagree with that, you're a longhaired hippy communist fag.

I'm glad to see the CIA is getting Auschwitz up and working again. Maybe they even put someone like Mengele on the payroll.

Yours in Christ,
Skeptical Enquirer

 
At December 21, 2005 12:22 AM, Anonymous said...

Too many comments to read... is someone really suggesting that the Poles are more conscientious than the Nazis or that without their aid, both Catholic and Jewish, and the agreements, both implicit and explicit, of the Vatican, the Christians govt. of the UK and US (and the prominent Jewish bankers), the Nazis could have managed to send most of the Jews in Poland to the labor camps?

Or is someone seriously suggesting that Poland is NOT aspiring to be the US's Australia in Europe?

 
At December 21, 2005 1:13 AM, grithstole said...

Those who deride Bush and bemoan so-called civil rights abuses against terrorists had nothing critical to say when the Clinton Administration slaughtered American citizens on American soil - including pregnant women and children - in Waco and Ruby Ridge.

These hypocrits welcome every American death in Iraq and would even welcome another 9/11 on American soil to damage Bush and Republicans politically.

Such traitors are unfit to lead.

 
At December 21, 2005 1:32 AM, world-peace-society said...

The Polish government like any others tries to get some money from America. Which they never get anyway, but they think they can.

 
At March 08, 2006 11:46 PM, Anonymous said...

1. Poland is aspiring to be Americas's friend in Europe, why not? You, Americans, should appreciate it. America does not have many friends on this continent. At least, we are closer friend than for example, Egypt, which receives regularly billions of dollars of financial support....
Poland's aspiration is not the aspiration of the ruling elite. We, as a society, are very pro-American.
2. Compare the situation of two persons: one is a mother of the Polish soldier who is now in Iraq, the second is an extremist muslim, with a German citizienship. Which of them must apply for American visa (the application procedure is a humiliating process)?

 
At June 28, 2007 1:45 PM, Anonymous said...

I'm 16yrs of age, I think people are forgetting what this is really all about, you have no idea what kind of pressure bush has on himself, the risks and consequences he has to take are unreal to us! I have read nearly all of these comments and I have a an answer for everyone! Firstly The Halacaut is not a fraud, how can someone possible say that when millions of people have been killed. It is there to remind us of what went wrong and to pay our respects, something that the countrys are forgetting what respect is! Also to remind us that we are really lucky and we take things for granted in this life.
Yes there were many polish citizins who saved Jewish lives but I can assure you there were Germans who did that too-it works both ways! We have no idea that the Polish could have been helping the Nazis-Who invented the concentration camps to begin with? Everybody deserves sympathy in this role not just the Polish.
We are certainly not responsible for what actions our govermnet decides to take-thats what he's there for. My Grandma has changed my perspective on life because I LISTEN! she tells me to fight for your country (even though she was german!) She fought for her country and remains proud of it-I'm not saying she is proud of her countires actions but she was a true soilder she was fighting for what she wanted, her family and home. Half the soilders fighting out there don't know what for and why.
This is most deffinatley not just screaming and shouting, and we are most certainly not wasting our efforts, this is reality and its what we have to face-we have to listen and its not all that easy to forgive - I bet theres some people you've never forgiven, and I bet you thats you religion to "turn the other cheek" but I'm afraid it doesn't work like that-I don't have a solution I wish I could say why can't we all love each other-but that wouldn't make sense in our world because it is litretrally impossible..... thank you,

 
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