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OBAMA'S MANY VIEWS ON MARIJUANA
PAUL KRASSNER - During a debate in the Democratic presidential primaries campaign, MSNBC moderator Tim Russert, the claymation journalist, asked the candidates who opposed decriminalization of marijuana to raise their hands.
Barack Obama hesitantly raised his hand halfway before quickly lowering it again. However, in January 2004, when Obama was running for the Senate, he told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession. "I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws," he said during a debate at Northwestern University. "But I'm not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana."
Was Obama now having a time-travel debate with himself? When the Washington Times confronted Obama with that statement on a video of the 2004 debate, his campaign offered two explanations in less than 24 hours. First, a spokesperson said that Obama had "always" supported decriminalizing marijuana, that he misunderstood the question when he raised his hand, and reiterated Obama's opposition to full legalization, adding that an Obama administration would "review drug sentences to see where we can be smarter on crime and reduce the blind and counterproductive sentencing to non-violent offenders."
But, after the Times posted the video on its website, the Obama campaign made a fast U-turn and declared that he does not support eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana possession and use--thereby rejecting both decriminalization and legalization.
What exactly is the difference? The definitions, according to Pot Culture: The A-Z Guide to Stoner Language & Life by Shirley Halperin and Steve Bloom, with a foreword by Tommy Chong: "Decriminalization: When laws governing marijuana are changed to reduce the penalties for possession of small quantities (usually below an ounce) to non-criminal status. The first state to decriminalize was Oregon in 1973, followed by California, New York, Ohio, Nebraska, Minnesota, Colorado, Mississippi, Alaska, North Carolina and Maine."
"Legalization: The complete repeal of marijuana prohibition and removal of all criminal penalties for its use, sale, transport and cultivation. The Netherlands is the only country in the world with such a policy."
Ron Fisher at NORML told me, "Decriminalization is the elimination of criminal penalties for the possession of marijuana, usually by replacing them with a fine (similar to a speeding ticket). Full legalization is a more complex issue that involves U.S. treaties, as well as the law. Legalization would be characterized by taxation and regulation of marijuana.
This is NORML's ultimate goal, but we work for decrim in the meantime for the sake of the 830,000 Americans arrested on cannabis charges each year." And, according to medical marijuana activist Lanny Swerdlow, "Whether Senator Obama has changed his position or not, if he obtains the Democratic nomination for president, then marijuana decriminalization will certainly become an issue in the campaign--maybe a major issue. I'm sure the Republicans will use Obama's videotaped statement supporting decriminalization and will try to paint him as soft on crime, sending the wrong message to children and all the baggage that goes with it. In this day and age, I think that could very well backfire as I really believe that most Americans are not aware, let alone support, ensnaring 830,000 citizens in the criminal justice system for marijuana-prohibition violations at a cost to taxpayers of between 10 and 20 billion dollars a year."
Indeed, a CNN/Time-Warner poll shows that 76% of Americans agree with Obama's original position, not to mention the 48 million who smoked pot in 2007.
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Barack Obama hesitantly raised his hand halfway before quickly lowering it again. However, in January 2004, when Obama was running for the Senate, he told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession. "I think the war on drugs has been a failure, and I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws," he said during a debate at Northwestern University. "But I'm not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana."
Was Obama now having a time-travel debate with himself? When the Washington Times confronted Obama with that statement on a video of the 2004 debate, his campaign offered two explanations in less than 24 hours. First, a spokesperson said that Obama had "always" supported decriminalizing marijuana, that he misunderstood the question when he raised his hand, and reiterated Obama's opposition to full legalization, adding that an Obama administration would "review drug sentences to see where we can be smarter on crime and reduce the blind and counterproductive sentencing to non-violent offenders."
But, after the Times posted the video on its website, the Obama campaign made a fast U-turn and declared that he does not support eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana possession and use--thereby rejecting both decriminalization and legalization.
What exactly is the difference? The definitions, according to Pot Culture: The A-Z Guide to Stoner Language & Life by Shirley Halperin and Steve Bloom, with a foreword by Tommy Chong: "Decriminalization: When laws governing marijuana are changed to reduce the penalties for possession of small quantities (usually below an ounce) to non-criminal status. The first state to decriminalize was Oregon in 1973, followed by California, New York, Ohio, Nebraska, Minnesota, Colorado, Mississippi, Alaska, North Carolina and Maine."
"Legalization: The complete repeal of marijuana prohibition and removal of all criminal penalties for its use, sale, transport and cultivation. The Netherlands is the only country in the world with such a policy."
Ron Fisher at NORML told me, "Decriminalization is the elimination of criminal penalties for the possession of marijuana, usually by replacing them with a fine (similar to a speeding ticket). Full legalization is a more complex issue that involves U.S. treaties, as well as the law. Legalization would be characterized by taxation and regulation of marijuana.
This is NORML's ultimate goal, but we work for decrim in the meantime for the sake of the 830,000 Americans arrested on cannabis charges each year." And, according to medical marijuana activist Lanny Swerdlow, "Whether Senator Obama has changed his position or not, if he obtains the Democratic nomination for president, then marijuana decriminalization will certainly become an issue in the campaign--maybe a major issue. I'm sure the Republicans will use Obama's videotaped statement supporting decriminalization and will try to paint him as soft on crime, sending the wrong message to children and all the baggage that goes with it. In this day and age, I think that could very well backfire as I really believe that most Americans are not aware, let alone support, ensnaring 830,000 citizens in the criminal justice system for marijuana-prohibition violations at a cost to taxpayers of between 10 and 20 billion dollars a year."
Indeed, a CNN/Time-Warner poll shows that 76% of Americans agree with Obama's original position, not to mention the 48 million who smoked pot in 2007.
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Yes, but hasn't he already shown a penchant for back-tracking when confronted? WHat makes anyone think he'll stand up for decrim (which I don't agree with, btw) when the Republicans really go after him?
I think it's safe to say that any fundamental questions about the drug war issue will not be answered this election cycle.
There's another position that's mid-way between decriminalization and legalization- continuing to forbid the commercial trade in marijuana, while allowing adults to cultivate small quantities for personal use. This policy has a precedent in present laws that allow home brewing of beer and wine.
From the Wikipedia entry on Homebrewing:
"...most states permit homebrewing, allowing 100 gallons of beer per person over the age of 21 per household, up to a maximum of 200 gallons per year. Because alcohol is taxed by the federal governments via excise taxes, homebrewers are restricted from selling any beer they brew. This similarly applies in most Western countries."
( Note that some states of the USA apparently do not permit homebrewing, just as some states and counties continue to prohibit the sale of alcohol- but at least the policy is a matter for individual localities to decide, not the Federal government. Which is fine by me. )
The problem with mere decriminalization is that it doesn't addresss the fact that the decriminalized personal possessors must still obtain their marijuana from illegal sources. That isn't a satisfactory answer, because the most negative impact of using cannabis- both to the individual and to society- is continual contact with the world of career criminals and their associated behaviors. That factor that has only increased over time under Zero Tolerance, through a sort of Gresham's Law of Drug Dealing- the conditions of prohibition advantage career criminals with propensities toward violence and antisocial behavior at the expense of those who aren't willing to compete with violence and antisociality in return, or to risk ruinous legal penalties- people like amateur home growers of small quantities of cannabis. The drug dealers who most adopt the behaviors of career criminals are able and willing to adapt to threats like incarceration- that's part of the key to success in such a field, after all. And as a criminal vocation, the opportunities arising from profiteering through dealing in "substances presently declared illegal" is unmatched.
The way to strike at the root of that societal problem is to remove as much of the customer base from the drug dealers as possible- which could be easily achieved in the case of marijuana, simply by allowing the cultivation of a few plants by a household. ( It certainly helps that as a cultivar, cannabis is less toxic than many house plants, much less tobacco.)
As for the other alternative, legalization- it's unnecessary, overly complicated to enact as law, and a political loser. Inevitably, working out the policy would involve a complex and fractious snarl of government bureaucracies, agencies, and lobbies- the FDA, the IRS, the insurance companies, various medical lobbies and their lawyers, and, of course, the private interests of corporate profiteers seeking to take over from the illegal dealers. A can of worms. And assuming that it could be worked out, the legal market could always be undercut by home cultivation- which I cynically suspect would remain illegal under any "legalization" program promulgated by the Federal government. Entirely possible that "legalization" would be a net loss, given that fact. If fact, I'm frankly sympathetic to some of the objections raised by opponents of the legalization of marijuana as an item of interstate commerce. I'm frankly worried that the legal "commercialization" of marijuana would probably look awfully foul in the hands of a government-licensed corporate oligopoly- especially if it simply followed along with the disingenuous propaganda campaigns presently pursued by the alcohol industry, and the psycho-pharmaceutical industry.
So I understand Barack Obama's indecision, when Tim Russert posed that question in one of the debates. As long as consideration is limited to the usual alternatives to the status quo of continued Federal criminal prohibition- "decriminalization or legalization"- workable reform of the laws against pot is very difficult to explicate and defend.
What's needed is a way to allow adults to have access to this relatively non-toxic natural plant substance if they want it, while removing the money factor out of the equation as much as possible. That money is healthier as a windfall return of surplus income to individuals than as "tax money", anyway- healthier for the individual, the economy, and for a government that shouldn't be encouraged to become reliant on peoples drug consumption habits for its funding. And the way to do that is to allow home growers to cultivate a few plants to provide themselves and their adult friends with a reasonable amount of marijuana for their own use, while continuing to prohibit their ability to stockpile huge quantities, or to sell it. Marijuana can be grown easily and cheaply all over the country- preferably in small garden plots or window boxes, outdoors in the sunshine, where it belongs.
[ note: I'm roughly as sick of high-dollar profiteering "compassionate caregivers" as the DEA is, at this point- opportunists taking advantage of medical marijuana laws to grow and deal in huge quantities of herb at $400/oz. They threaten to ruin it for the people who obtain the most benefit from it. ]
The personal-use cultivation reform won't solve every problem associated with cannabis use, but it will solve the big ones. To name one important consequence: while teenagers will undoubtedly sneak marijuana from their pot-using parents and share it with their friends just as many have traditionally done with beer and alcohol, they will no longer be recruited as foot soldiers in the retail end of the Underground Empire of the illegal drug trade inspired by Zero Tolerance, which is how matters have been playing out for around the last 40+ years.
Finally, this sage advice isn't original with me- support for legalized possession and private cultivation of small amounts of marijuana by adults was endorsed as far back as the Shafer Commission, a blue-ribbon panel picked in the early 1970s by then-President Richard Nixon- who thereupon tore up the report; and the same policy reform was also supported by an expert panel of the National Academy of Sciences in 1982, who delivered their findings to President Ronald Reagan- who thereupon tore up the report...
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what are you so afraid will happen if we simply remove the laws against this plant? Can potheads really be more dangerous to themselves or others than drunks? More importantly, why are advocates of the medical use of this plant completely ignoring their best allies: those at the front of the hemp revolution.
Some industrial potential for hemp may be a bit over hyped, but the potential for this plant is still tremendous. I am a mechanical engineer and have been studying this plant's industrial uses for years and have become certain that legalizing cannabis cultivation would go a long way towards helping our environment and our economy (not to mention give me tons of new job opportunities.)
Supporters of the cannabis plant need to come together and promote a simple, logical and just solution to our failed war on drugs; not just argue over who's part of the issue is more important.
Think about it this way: it is our law against smoking pot that keeps third-world countries producing cotton instead of hemp, which leaves them with worthless topsoil and contaminated groundwater after just a few years.
Our failed drug war continues to cripple and corrupt governments in Mexico, Columbia, the U.S. and more; the black market we have created fuels terrorism around the globe as it undermines the credibility of our entire justice system. I could go on for days, but the point here is not to trivialize this issue.
Cannabis needs to be a major topic of debate in the upcoming election, the various supporters of reform being on the same page gives us all a much better chance of being heard. I believe the answer is as simple as publicly supporting the efforts of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition(www.leap.cc); putting the spotlight on them gives us credibility and consensus on policy reform, their representatives are even available for public speaking.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but I would be curious to know what you thinks about this idea.
Sure, go ahead and legalize it. Then we will have people crashing their cars into innocents left and right, we will have doctors getting stoned before performing major surgeries, we will have judges and juries stoned while they decide the fate of people's lives, we will have police officers so stoned that they can't perform their jobs of keeping us safe and arresting the lawbreakers, we will have bank tellers so stoned that they can't accurately account for our money, we will have mothers so stoned that they can't properly take care of their children....do I seriously need to go on? Did you ever stop to think that maybe what might be keeping some of these people from doing this now is the fear of being caught? I don't enjoy being around people who are high and who continuously get high because they get so stupid they can't carry on a conversation. I live in reality and I expect everyone else I come in contact with on a daily basis to do the same thing.
Anonymous said: "Then we will have people crashing their cars into innocents left and right, we will have doctors getting stoned before performing major surgeries, we will have judges and juries stoned while they decide the fate of people's lives, we will have police officers so stoned that they can't perform their jobs of keeping us safe and arresting the lawbreakers, we will have bank tellers so stoned that they can't accurately account for our money, we will have mothers so stoned that they can't properly take care of their children....do I seriously need to go on? Did you ever stop to think that maybe what might be keeping some of these people from doing this now is the fear of being caught?"
That is what regulation is for. A surgeon will not get high before a surgery, because if they did, they would lose their license because of malpractice. You don't worry about these things with alcohol, and from what I have seen, people can function much better while stoned then when drunk.
"Sure, go ahead and legalize it. Then we will have people..."
You are an idiot, before posting next time, do some reading on marijuana.
I think that there should be legalization of marijuana. Some smokers use it for a positive source to reach nirvana. Some smokers use it to become more in touch with there artistic edge. The inhale of the precious herb is a miracle breathe of fresh air. It has personally brought me closer to God. FUCKING LEGALIZE IT !
God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat." … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)
If you believe in God, LEGALIZE IT!
God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat." … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31)
If you believe in God, LEGALIZE IT!
the u.s. government would tax people for masturbation if they could....And yes, the comment about car crashes and doctors and moms...? it would be a good idea to practice "critical thinking"
I think the Medical marijuana should be legal. Our Surgeon General has just said she feels it should be made legal also with 125,000 of the worlds leading doctors behing her findings, I say foll ow the will of the People as it should be, Not just 1 man that needs IMPEACHED
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Ok..... I cant see why we should have to pay anywhere from 10 to 20 billion dollars of are tax money a year on people in jail for stupid crap like simple possession charges when it comes to weed. Oh and this stupid war on drugs they can fight it for as long as they want but in the end no matter how long it takes I think weeds going to be legal in the U.S. I cant see why someone should get locked for trying to relax, now I looking at this as a rec./social smokers point of view I mean it's pretty much the same thing as sitting back and drinking a beer except you don't get all angry and want to fight every body, and your still capible of doing every thing you can do when your not high like drive for instance. and I think that if its legal to brew your own beer you should be able to grow your own pot. I mean you hear all this good stuff about it like oh its in the bible and and the medical stuff its used for but I can't really think of any negative sides to it right now besides drug dealers but oh we can eliminate that to if we're able to grow it. And plus it can be used for a raw material I feel that if its has all these good purposes and God put it on this earth knowing that we were going to smoke it and use it for other things cause remember god already knows everything thats going to happen, then how bad can it actually be honestly. I just think that one of the major issues with legalizing it is that all the beer and cigarette companys that the government can tax are going to lose bussiness on something that they can't really tax but I don't know about you but I would rather make weed legal and lose money than paying all that tax money for all those people in jail for weed. Thats just my oppinion and I don't care if you like if or not Im just tired of all these up tight people making such a big deal outta wee.
My views on Marijuana are the same as all the 830 thousand people in jail for possession. If the government wants to end the war on drugs then legalize it already so it can end. I'll say this though: The farmers that are left in the united states could grow and cultivate Marijuana for the government. Instead of taxing cigarettes and uping the price all the time (losing business because people can't afford 1 pack) they could put Marijuana on the market and tax IT. Also, tobacco kills, Marijuana helps thousands of people with eating disorders, with cateracts, and with many different medical issues. Cigarettes can't do that. Plus with cigarettes, the government is KNOWINGLY KILLING everybody in the WORLD, whereas marijuana helps people relax, or for some, like my husband, gives them more energy and helps them focus and think more clearly. Marijuana is a great herb for relieving stress. Believe it or not, there will be less suicides if marijuana was legal and available for the public. Farmers wouldn't have to be forced to sell their livestock and their land, just to make some money so they can survive. Farming is what they know and it's how they've made a living their whole lives and they are being forced to sell their land and livestock so they can continue to survive. And because of that, there will be no more farmers left in the world if this continues. Thanks to farmers, we have the natural beef and pork and chicken and all this other great food and don't have any chemicals in them from fertilizer. Allowing farmers to grow and cultivate marijuana for public use will help them survive and continue to thrive where the do now and it would definatly help the economy. If marijuana was legal, there wouldn't be so many homeless people and people on wellfare or on foodstamps because their job doesn't pay them enough to afford enough food for themselves and their families. And the dealers that are selling illegally should be able to get a license to sell marijuana if it's legalized, that way they can grow it themselves and sell it to their customers. The people who frown upon these comments and blogs made by many Americans, don't know what they are missing out on, and they probably haven't tried marijuana, and if they have, it was probably years ago and everybody's likes change over the years. I know mine did. The first time I tried pot at 15 I didn't like it because it burned my throat and a few years later when I decided to try it again, I loved it. It helps me relax and it definatly helps with my cramps and excrutiating pain I get every month when I go through my monthly cycle. So in turn: LEGALIZE MARIJUANA ALREADY!!!!!
Who cares what he says NOW, he's gonna say whatever gets him elected. Then after he's elected he can do whatever the hell he wants. I think he really does believe in decrim. but he can't admit it while he's running for Prez. Once he's elected I'm sure he'll have no problem supporting it.
Who cares what he says NOW, he's gonna say whatever gets him elected. Then after he's elected he can do whatever the hell he wants. I think he really does believe in decrim. but he can't admit it while he's running for Prez. Once he's elected I'm sure he'll have no problem supporting it.
Who cares what he says NOW, he's gonna say whatever gets him elected. Then after he's elected he can do whatever the hell he wants. I think he really does believe in decrim. but he can't admit it while he's running for Prez. Once he's elected I'm sure he'll have no problem supporting it.
Man, when the hell will someone stand up and ask the dam candidates what they are going to do about the failing war on drugs and Medical marijuana issue? We can throw out all the facts and truths we want here online, but until we have a Dateline/60min/20/20, debate or some mainstream show saying how great marijuana is to treat X, Y and Z and so on.
Also, how so many folks are in jail for nothing more then smoking a joint out of there 60g+ bag, getting cought, non violent, to serve as a number, for a quota, set by the government, to award money, to cops and there departments, for busting my mother, who had cancer and is 80years old, come on!!!
Wake Up America, we are busting mothers and fathers, students and hard working people, teachers, and mayors, the Direct Tv guy, the PC support guy, the postman, the banker, and
soon to be grandfathers and grandmothers, well on my end!
Thats who gets hurt in the war on drugs!
If they spent as much time busting the meth labs and sex offenders, we would be free of meth and my kids would be safe to play outside! Isnt that more important then a smoker getting busted, for a joint in his pocket?
Yeh, but its easyer, isnt it!
I'm going with Obama.
Decriminalization is the way to go.
Although, I truely believe the legalization of marijuana would be a better choice.
Everyone is so concerned about the teenagers and how it gives them "wrong ideas".
But, if the teenagers KNOW it's legal, and KNOW that they are allowed to do it, chances are they won't. They want to be rebelious. I'm supporting Obama 100% on this one.
Thanks(:
While his position seems indecisive on decriminalizing marijuana, we should keep in mind his difficult situation. While all of us would love to hear a candidate for the Presidency openly denounce the current marijuana laws, they still have to placate the status quo while campaigning.
Senator Obama may have every intention of fighting to repeal the ridiculous marijuana statutes, but to announce that publicly before he's elected would be political suicide (wouldn't FOX love to have that kind of ammunition to throw against the first black contender with a serious chance at the Presidency?)
I can't blame Obama for backtracking on his initial support for complete decriminalization of Marijuana. At least when i look at it from a politicians (eeeww!) point of view. I can only hope that once his beautiful black ass is in the oval office, we can start to see some liberating changes made to the way we treat marijuana in America.
*sorry about the "beautiful black ass" comment but im so damn excited about the apparent ebbing of the consistantly racist tide in this country.
As far as im concerned its already leagal SMOKEM IF YOU GOT UM
$400 an ounce thats outa control!dam i can git some Seattle bud for $200 for an ounce that you can stick to the wall.and TAX the shit if you want,it would be better going to the store and buying some good clean bud then buyin it off the street ware it could be laced with somethin.it shouldnt matter how its profited or consumed,becuase if everyone starts smoke consistintly they will grow ammuned to it and ull start to have ur common sence after u smoke but still be calm and relaxed.
If everyone were to smoke a joint before they laeft there household people would be nicer,calmer,and would probly bring peace.unlike alcaol's high that makes people wanna fight.plus local grocery stores would recive more bussness for there food lol.
As a recently processed user of cannabis, I believe decrim at this point is at least a step in the right direction. I am hoping to live and experience a slighty less stressful enviroment. I have yet to see two smokers get up and fight about anything. I have however been privy to the most insightful and enlightning conversations of my life. I recently lost one of the closest, most inteligent smokers I have ever met. So all things considered I am really hoping Obama will meet us half-way and ACTUALLY start with the decriminalization of marijuana/cannabis.
to the man who thinks when marijuana will be legal that people will be stoned everywhere, getting in car crashes right and left. no, you can can control yourself when your stoned a billion more times then when you are drunk. legalizing marijuana would probably be a step in the right direction. becuase even now the law cant stop people from smoking. but when we can go into the store and buy nice clean bud, instead of taking a risk buying bud that might be laced, things are a million times safer for pot smokers. peoples minds are so much more open,polite, and relaxed when they have been shown the light. if you say the world needs to be a better place with people who dont take everything so serious... let there be marijuana! god made weed, man made alcohol. who do you trust now?
The laws need to change! I've known students in college who ruined their life over a joint. Lost federal funding for school over one joint. THANK YOU MPP.ORG for doing the right thing.
I am a daily smoker. The world would be a better place if people smoked marijuana in my honest opinion.
Alcohol is the poison that should be illegal and anyone that says otherwise has never tried marijuana. fact.
What people don't realize is that many marijuana smokers do so, responsibly. I did very bad in high school because I got high everyday, if it were legal I would have NOT skipped school and I would have gone to class and just smoked after school.
People are blinded by the government and buy into this BS that it should be illegal when they are so backwards in their beliefs I find it scary. Legalizing marijuana has so many more positives than negatives which have already been stated many times, our government is completely ignorant to not see this.
Alcohol is the poison, marijuana is the cure. enough said.
alcohol poisons and destroys your body functions far worse than marijuana ever can or will.
marijuana is grown, naturally, and isnt near as bad as tobacco.
i, smoking quite often, am capable of doing many things while high. nowhere near incoherent. ever.
its ridiculous that alcohol can kill and marijuana cant, yet people have the mindset that youre the bad person because marijuana is illegal. and thats the simple fact, if alcohol and cigarettes can be legal, there is absolutley no reason whatsoever why marijuana shouldnt be.
if somebody wants to smoke let them, its their body, who is anybody to tell them they cant?
make it legal. stop being idiots.
WEED SUCKS DON'T LEGALIZE IT ALL THESE GUYS ON THIS PAGE ARE JUST POTHEADS. I have studied marijuana and it has more bad than good effects.
Alcohol and Tobacco kill so many people each year.
No one has ever died from direct marijuana use. Ever.
Honestly, everyone I talk to agrees with me that when stoned, driving is easier. You become more foccused.
I can't even tell you how many good things come out of marijuana.
Music sounds better, Food tastes better, Movies are funnier, Things become more exciting, Headaches and Stomach aches instantly eliminated, Depression is decreased, Aggression is decreased, Happiness is the only thing you care about, Sex is feels BETTER.
You do not lose brain cells. That is a myth. USE A Vaporizer and you the smoke will not hurt your lungs or use a water bong and the smoke is filtered causing less tar to come through.
You do not have problems remembering things just because you smoke.
You will only become lazy if you are a teenager. When adults smoke on a daily basis, it does not affect there ability to get up and go, to have a job, to take care of kids, or any other thing. I don't have any kids of my own although I take care of my neice.
I smoke everyday and have never had a single problem doing it.
The ONLY thing you have to worry about is the legal matters. If it was legalized, Can you imagine how much peace would be floating around?
Stop following what everyone else is saying and just help to legalize it. If you are not a pot head then you are not informed. Get informed. Smoke cannabis.
It is the cure for everything wrong in your life.
Be stress-free, Be happy, Be high.
alrite, first of all allow me to say i am a pothead, have been since i was 13 and will be when i am in a casket. the man is keeping me down, if i am pulled over in my car and even have red eyes i have to do a field sobriety test. if that ain't the ball breaker i dont know what is. getting a dui for smoking 4 hrs earlier n driving to burger king after a nap and having approx. a gram on me. i mean please, your gona waste your tax dollars on me bc i wanted a cheese burger!?!?! and had a bowls worth of weed!?!? i think theres approx 275 murders a year in my city. approx 75-100 are solved. cant we do something about that instead of givin me a dui and spending about 14,00 dollars of the countys to give me a dui for weed.. I CALL FOR IT>> DECRIMINALIZE MY MARIJUANA>> I NEED MY SMOKE, OR HULK GET MAD
Marijuana has both positive and negative effects but the positive can be worth it more than the negative. Marijuana is alot less harmful than tobacco or alc if you look it up you will find out what really goes on basicly getting high or drunk does the same thing it sorta tickles your receptors but thats all weed does alc on the other hand releases toxins which shuts down parts of the brain starting with the frontal lobe which controls our higher thought process without that you basicly have an animal brain a mammal brain to be specific but while your brain shuts down the toxins kill brain cells. weed does not kill brain cells but it does wear out receptors which is why you feel burnt out but after that wears off your back to being yourself. weed just has a bad reputation without that it would be close to legal by now but most people think the right thing is to listen to what everyone says around them and do what they do because they cant make desisions on their own they want everyone around them to make the desisions for them if you think about it i bet you all can think of a couple people like that if not tons… anyway i am going to vote for obama just because he seems like he wants to try new things im sick of the same old scum bags in politics i know the president cant change everything but he can help i guess
I dont see why we as a nation or states feel that marijuana is such a bad thing.Smoking cigarettes is legal and that kills thousands of people a year, not to mention all the others from 2nd hand smoke.Marijuana doesnt have as many ill effects even remotely near cigarettes.The only person it could hurt is yourself and thats only if u abuse it.I dont understand why our government spends so much money on trying to protect or punish people from something that grows in nature.Marijuna was here long before and was used by so many famous american heroes before america even became the most powerful country in the world.I mean for christ sake, even the U.S. Constitution was written on hemp.Also, look at how many americans smoke weed.It said in this article that 76% of americans voted yes on decriminalizing marijuana; im sure that that number has grown significantly since they tested americans last.Especially with our countries economic situation, weed can help.Tax it, sell it, do whatever to make money off it cause people will keep buying.
So i say cut the bullshit, allow marijuana to be used at the discretion of the people.
Barack Obama-"yeah, Ive enhaled, that was the point" Lets not forget this is coming from a Harvard Law School graduate and soon to be President of the great United States of America. I mean who seriously still thinks marijuana is a "harmful" drug? The only thing that is harmful about it, is buying it from people who most likely sell other drugs too. Ok, Ill admit when your high, you obviously tend to be really laid back, some people will say "weed makes you antisocial" or " pot makes you stupid". When really your just thinking more than talking. I smoked so much weed the other night, then drove to Blockbuster, and on my way back, I had to go through a DUI checkpoint (it was Friday night) and depending on the state you live in(FL here) these can be pretty intense. They blocked off the whole street and made everyone go through a parking lot full of cops and stopped each car for a random sobriety test. Obviously I was a little concerned cause I was REALLY high, and the officer asked if I smoked marijuana, which of course I denied, he said he smelled marijuana and asked another officer to smell me too lol, then and asked if he could search the vehicle, and since Im not an idiot and I can smoke in my own house, he didnt find any "contraband". While 4 other cops were staring me down to see if I was under the influence, they later thanked me for my cooperation, and sent me on my way. I let out a huge sigh of relief and drove home. An example of how even though I was high as a kite, I was able to safely operate a motor vehicle, adhere to any instuctions given by the officer(s), and be compliant and cooperative. You couldnt say the same for someone who has had a 6pack and in most cases, much ,much more. I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.
listen here, i'm a pothead, i love pot. pot helps me in every way possible. all my friends smoke pot, & pot is the reason i know most of my friends. pot doesn't make you antisocial, because you smoke pot with a variety of different people, then meet more people & so on so forth. it doesn't make you all hyper & loud, it chills you out, & it really does make you think alot harder about the things you think about. i was with a bunch of my friends, & we were smoking, & the only things we were talking about, were what we thought was gonna happen years from now, & these really cool things i just wouldn't see myself talking about if i wasn't high. i just got so into the conversation. i see no issue with pot being legalized, & from what i see, no one else does either.
LEGALIZE THE WEED PLEASE!
listen here, i'm a pothead, i love pot. pot helps me in every way possible. all my friends smoke pot, & pot is the reason i know most of my friends. pot doesn't make you antisocial, because you smoke pot with a variety of different people, then meet more people & so on so forth. it doesn't make you all hyper & loud, it chills you out, & it really does make you think alot harder about the things you think about. i was with a bunch of my friends, & we were smoking, & the only things we were talking about, were what we thought was gonna happen years from now, & these really cool things i just wouldn't see myself talking about if i wasn't high. i just got so into the conversation. i see no issue with pot being legalized, & from what i see, no one else does either.
LEGALIZE THE WEED PLEASE!
listen here, i'm a pothead, i love pot. pot helps me in every way possible. all my friends smoke pot, & pot is the reason i know most of my friends. pot doesn't make you antisocial, because you smoke pot with a variety of different people, then meet more people & so on so forth. it doesn't make you all hyper & loud, it chills you out, & it really does make you think alot harder about the things you think about. i was with a bunch of my friends, & we were smoking, & the only things we were talking about, were what we thought was gonna happen years from now, & these really cool things i just wouldn't see myself talking about if i wasn't high. i just got so into the conversation. i see no issue with pot being legalized, & from what i see, no one else does either.
LEGALIZE THE WEED PLEASE!
i agree with the last statement. im glad obama has something to offer for the mmj smokers out there.
"At March 2, 2008 6:05 PM, Anonymous said...
Sure, go ahead and legalize it. Then we will have people crashing their cars into innocents left and right, we will have doctors getting stoned before performing major surgeries, we will have judges and juries stoned while they decide the fate of people's lives, we will have police officers so stoned that they can't perform their jobs of keeping us safe and arresting the lawbreakers, we will have bank tellers so stoned that they can't accurately account for our money, we will have mothers so stoned that they can't properly take care of their children....do I seriously need to go on? Did you ever stop to think that maybe what might be keeping some of these people from doing this now is the fear of being caught? I don't enjoy being around people who are high and who continuously get high because they get so stupid they can't carry on a conversation. I live in reality and I expect everyone else I come in contact with on a daily basis to do the same thing."
this fool makes me angry weed does not make u in capable of doing stuff it makes u calm so u can deal with shit easier and weed actually makes u a better driver at the fear of being pulled over is there so weed is not bad its good for the mind and body in fact less ppl die a year from weed than anything it you will have to smoke 15,000 pounds of weed in 15 min to overdose from it so with that being said pick some other drug
To Justin, who claims to have studied cannabis: Stop kidding yourself. Any studying you did is insignificant when compared with coordinated, long term studies involving thousands of experts in the field of medicine. Based on your style of writing alone, I would place your IQ right around the 85-90 point range. If you want to bump that appraisal up a few points, try using lowercase occasionally and perhaps include something more concrete than your opinion.
To the guy that claimed that legalized pot would lead to collapse in society, I hate to say it, but alcohol has been legal for a while now and as much as the media may try, I'm not seeing the nightly news packed with stories of drunken surgeons, bomber pilots and judges running rampant. The mere presumption that the right to do something leads to the uncontrollable, compulsive abuse of that right is typical of a person who has no control of his/her own. Do not project your own inadequacies on the rest of us. You are tiny, insignificant little creature. Few intelligent people know you, and even fewer respect you. When you die, you will not be remembered. The least you could do is to stop inflicting yourself on a publically-accessible forum.
I will leave all comments directed at other posters out of my comments, as I think they would detract from my ability to express a view point.
I am not a regular marijuana consumer. I would say on average I use about 3-4 times a year. Not enough data points to make any statistical argument. Also, I do not have a medical degree so I can't make a well informed opinion about those effects either. What I do have is a degree in mathematics and masters degree from Cornell in Finance.
In 2003 dollars enforcement of marijuana laws cost and estimate $13-16 billion (1) Nadelman, Ethan....Drive to legalize. Mr. Nadelman is the Drug Policy Alliance Director.
25-42 % of Americans support legalization of decriminalization.
If we were to allow citizens to make a personal choice and pay $1000 each year for the ability to grow a plant for personal consumption and lets say 25 million people pay this tax. $25,000,000,000 (that is billion) of tax we could collect. I personally think 25 million people is a conservative figure.
another $10 to $15 billion in reduced spending on enforcement of marijuana laws and we are looking at a $35 - $40 billion/year swing. This does not include the cost of incarcerating people for posession laws. That's real money that could be used to invest in alternative energy, etc.
If you are afraid of the person who has no control over their ability to consume and will smoke themselves to death. I say, let it happen. It is easy evolution. Cull the weak and let the responsible citizens who enjoy the non habit forming, relaxing occasional use.
By the way, sorry for a lack of punctuation, edits etc. I was a math and finance major, not an English major.
Actually there are many carcinogens in marijuana smoke. But there are also many in cigarettes, alcohol, food we eat, air we breath, etc. and to the posters point that nobody ever has died of marijuana, that is imposible to prove and most likely not incorrect. Bob Marley died of acute emphysema and lung cancer and never smoked a cigarette in his life, was a vegetarian and athlete as well. Played football 3 to 5 times a week. Lets convince people its okay to use marijuana recreationally using accurate facts and figures. Speaking from the heart is great, but proves very little, unless you are trying to convince people you are passionate about a topic.
I meant to say most like not correct, not incorrect. My apologies for not proofing.
Well in that case if you are worried about the carcinogens found in marijuana there is always the healthier alternative to consuming the active chemicals without taking in the unnecessary carcinogens by the use of a vaporizer.
"Actually there are many carcinogens in marijuana smoke. But there are also many in cigarettes, alcohol, food we eat, air we breath, etc. and to the posters point that nobody ever has died of marijuana, that is imposible to prove and most likely not incorrect. Bob Marley died of acute emphysema and lung cancer and never smoked a cigarette in his life, was a vegetarian and athlete as well. Played football 3 to 5 times a week. Lets convince people its okay to use marijuana recreationally using accurate facts and figures. Speaking from the heart is great, but proves very little, unless you are trying to convince people you are passionate about a topic."
Bob Marley died from cancer that metastasized to his lungs and brain, not that started in the lungs. It started in a football wound in his toe. The fact is, there is no recorded deaths directly attributable to marijuana, and all organic matter, when burned, gives off cancerous hydrocarbons. cannabis has been PROVEN to have no link with lung cancer (see UCLA studies) and actually had a positive correlation meaning that it made cancer less likely. Millions of americans use it every day and society has not crumbled. Amsterdam's crime went drastically down after the legalization of cannabis, and teenage use dropped by 50 percent.
Check your facts, buddy.
Why Mary-jane is illegal:
First off, the point i want to make has been made for me in the first scene of the movie "pineapple express".
This drug, for drug it is (>anything that affects the way the mind and body works<, has an affect that is undesirable from the point of view of those who intend to manipulate the masses for their own gain. Yes the government is evil, but it's not entirely their fault. Our politicians were raised poorly and grew into egomaniacs. I will not respond in the same way to mind control tactics such as intimidations, peer pressure, public ridicule and all those others that those in charge have become so expert at using to serve their own purposes if i were, say high on pot as i would if i were fully tanked up with booze, nicoteen, "body dismorphic disorders(ex.:i'm too fat, i'm too skinny, my brain doesn't work the way i'm told it should)and a soul oppressing fear of being under the war hammer of the worlds self-proclaimed super power (secretly impotent) which all efficiently beat me into submission untill i become the ideal citizen of a country run by those who ensure their freedom by denying me mine. Their are very few viable tendencies to reap from the stoner stoned, he is lackadaisic, given to whimsical impulse, contented by deep meditation and deep down, though parnoia may prevent him from admitting, he is vulnerable and may even feel finite; mortal. These are not at all conditions suitable to big brothers' personal self-serving master plan. We should all feel invincible and ready to brandish our patriotism in the face of anyone who offers the opinion that our feces does in fact smell as malodorous as anyone elses. Beer is the brain basher that prepares us to crap lightning. Hungover? Buy asprin because we care....Hippies just dont kill for us, they dont buy our deoderant, in point of fact they just ruin our days from day one to seven. Legalize Marijuana? why would they? Damn potheads are almost as bad as the crazies, who really cramp our style.
people are ignorant fools. i bet you that the few people who dont smoke it have never even thought to actually read and think for them selves. and instead belive anything they are told by our gov.
the biggest problem our gov has with pot is the fact that it supports free thinking. when people can sit back and think for themselves the gov looses all control of that person, he/she will then act on behalf of thier OWN ideas
pot is a tool to elavate the level of thinking, and to break down barriers of the mind
our world has come as far as it has because of us "potheads" and "crazies"
its only been illegal for 1% of human existance, and has NEVER been the cause of death. that has to say something
But hey...fess up, sometimes we know that being stoned means "Dude, i'm so fucked up", which has it's ups and downs.
Moderation matters. Now medical suicide, they say "hell, burn em down." "Dear God dont let them blaze one up". That'd just be bad.
weed is good for the soul...
fuck other drugs that are legal that kill people everyday,
those are the drugs that should be ILLEGAL.
and people are just ignorant if they think people would get high everday before their work and other activities..you dont see everyone getting drunk before everthing they do.
there would be alot less crime if weed was legalized so people didnt have to buy it off other people anymore. i mean what makes someone a bad person just because they want to smoke??its their life. doesnt mean they have to go to jail for it.
in my opinionthe positives of legalizing weed definitely outway the negatives.
in response to the person who said "I live in reality, and I expect everyone I come in contact with to do the same"
I hated reality until the first time I really got stoned and understood with more clarity than ever before in my life that we have souls and that magic is real.
We have yet to discover what "reality" really is. But I can tell you one thing, its more incredible than you've ever imagined. I love this awesome, mysterious, sacred world, and I expect (hope, rather) everyone I come in contact with to do the same.
I just wanna say, I got arrested and thrown in jail, treated like shit, given no phone call till the next day, no mattress, all for having a tiny little bit of herb in my pocket.
I was and still am respectful towards police officers, even in my own mind, despite how crooked some may be.
Why was I smoking? Because I love God!
What might I do when I'm stoned? Be courteous to everybody, friend or foe. Get a new perspective on my self and my actions, and become a better, more disciplined person as a result. Or just listen to music, and enjoy the fact that it all exists
I think obama should make it where ppl can smoke,have pot on them and not get n trouble! Its not hurting no one but ur self..Ya i kno ppl say 'what about ppl around you?' well if they dont smoke it they should leave the room or where ever it is..it should b where u can have some on you but not that much..maybe like u cant have more than an oz. on u! or something like that bc who doesnt smoke it! they should just leave pot,potheads alone and go after the meth,coke,pillheads and other big drugs like that! VOTE OBAMA BI*CHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its a herb so just leave it alone..God put this here 4 you and me! he wants ppl 2 smoke it..its grow in the ground so its not a drug..drugs u have 2 mix shit up and buy chemicals and cook it but u just put it n the ground,water it every now and then and thats it...VOTE OBAMA BI*CHES!!!!!!
A drug, broadly speaking, is any chemical substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.[5] There is no single, precise definition, as there are different meanings in medicine, government regulations, and colloquial usage.[6]
And to annonymous: you're a pothead. The election is over.
How does Obama's likeky AG feel about this issue?
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=901&Itemid=1
Ughh.
"I think obama should make it where ppl can smoke,have pot on them and not get n trouble! Its not hurting no one but ur self..Ya i kno ppl say 'what about ppl around you?' well if they dont smoke it they should leave the room or where ever it is..it should b where u can have some on you but not that much..maybe like u cant have more than an oz. on u! or something like that bc who doesnt smoke it! they should just leave pot,potheads alone and go after the meth,coke,pillheads and other big drugs like that! VOTE OBAMA BI*CHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
This disgusts me. I am a supporter of legalizing marijuana, and when I read poorly written responses like this,it is really irritating. It makes other supporters look bad. I smoke, and I am a fully functional member of society. I am not a thug, I don't leave the house when I do it, and honestly, I think some people drive BETTER when high. It makes you concentrate. When I smoke with friends, it opens a whole new level of understanding. You can talk about pretty much anything. I would say it is somewhat of a social crutch, without the bad effects of alcohol.
Comparisons between alcohol and marijuana further prove that marijuana should legalized. When you too much, you risk alcohol poisoning,date rape, or death. With pot, you smoke too much and usually you just fall asleep. Not to mention that pot smoke isn't any more dangerous to the lungs than tabacco. Now I'm not saying that all the sudden weed should be legalized. I believe it needs to be approached slowly in steps, progressing from decriminalization to outright legalization.
This is just my opinion. I don't know what Obama has planned for the next four years, but hey, he couldn't be any worse than the jackass before him.
I believe dat if ppl got da right 2 drink an alcoholic beverage and take da chance of doing sumthin stupid, I believe dat we should have da right 2 b n possession of marijuana products and not get penalized 4 it. I nvr really hear of ppl dying from bud. sometimes it makes others more focused on their daily activities, and da good thing about weed iz u cant overdose! and at skool, STUDY HIGH, TAKE A TEST HIGH, GET HIGH SCORES! Lol. LEGALIZE IT BABY! and vote Obama 4 da legalization of Marijuana . . . :)
Marijuana should be legal or at least decriminalized. Drug Courts and jails are full of pot smokers. This is stupid. The only lives I've seen ruined by pot are the lives of the people that got caught. Come on America, do something smart for a change, make cigarettes illegal. They will KILL you. Drunk drivers will KILL you too. DUI is a lesser offense than possession of marijuana in many states. How many people do you know that were KILLED by a marijuana smoker? Duh...none, that's what I thought. Didn't take a Harvard graduate to figure that one out.
Leagalize it............
"Sure, go ahead and legalize it. Then we will have people crashing their cars into innocents left and right, we will have doctors getting stoned before performing major surgeries, we will have judges and juries stoned while they decide the fate of people's lives, we will have police officers so stoned that they can't perform their jobs...."
All I can say about this guy is, WOW!!! And then some guy further down starting/basing his argument off of the MOVIE pinnapple express. This is just a movie, this is not a real life occurance in the day of a pothead. It was meant to be funny/a joke. I smoke pot. I'm able to do everything non-potheads do. Drive all the time high, and have for years, and can say it is not any different then driving not high. Driving drunk...now THAT'S scary. Would I have wanted to be driving around the first or second time I ever got high? No, I wouldn't even think about it (for those that don't know, the first of second time of smoking weed can be much more intense for some, like me). What's stopping me from driving those first couple of times??? It's a little thing called decision making, that a lot of "non-supporters" are forgetting about. I don't slam a 6 pack and then hop in my car, because I have a brain (which I can't say for some). Let us decide what we want to do with our own bodies, and stop treated everyone like your 4 year old child, and the country will be a much happier (and wealthy) place. There a lot of ignorant old-timin' conservitives out there that see things through cloudy eyes, and have no first hand experience continually using this drug. Until that generation dies off, pot will remain illegal in some way.
"All I can say about this guy is, WOW!!! And then some guy further down starting/basing his argument off of the MOVIE pinnapple express. This is just a movie, this is not a real life occurance in the day of a pothead."
I'm saying: weed makes you a contrary, opinionated, individual and therefore dangerous as a splinter cell rabble rouser. So what if it is a movie, it's an EXTREME example of social insubordination that draws a parallel with the attitude of everyday potsmokers. Weed is an instrument that nonconformists groove on.
Reread my earlier post.
Your body does belong to you. That's right, but what about your kids? What if one day through future science a study reveals that using pot during conception (or whenever....blah blah blah i dont care. Dont be stupid.
What about separation of church and state? "And God said, 'See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth...'" [Genesis 1:29]
Botanically, Mary Jane is an herb bearing seed.
Justin said...
WEED SUCKS DON'T LEGALIZE IT ALL THESE GUYS ON THIS PAGE ARE JUST POTHEADS. I have studied marijuana and it has more bad than good effects.
you are a moron read this page. also you couldn't have studied marijuana because there are basically no negatives to marijuana.also did you know that by the 1900's hemp was the primary fuel for the us and was only made illegal because oil and chemical companies feared the competiton fact.
I heard marijuana was made illegal because Mexicans used it after their hard days of work to relax. It supposedly made the Mexicans stronger and better, but, like alcohol, many of them got aggressive and went wild. White folk didn't like these Mexican traditions so they banned the plant... Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck whether it's legal or not, I will still smoke it.
I like to think of weed as a tool, according to Islamic religion marijuana was a gift from Shiva for the man to relax after a hard day's work. Even though I'm not Islam, that's how I use it, I think Mexicans had it right after all.
I'll smoke it because I know it's good GOD created herb.
The fact that the Government is keeping Marijuana illegal is just stupid as hell... Do they not realize the money they can make off the marijuana? They can Tax it, they'll get money for just growing it... Their's so many jobs they can start... People will be able to work. Ciggerettes are way worse to smoke than pot, their not Illegal? Alchoal, ... That's not illegal? People die from all those things, and marijuana... Who died from that? NOT ONE!. The money the government can make is just outragious. When you smoke pot it's not like your drunk, you just laugh have a good time and your all relaxed. It helps relieve stress. People say it causes short term memory... It's only Temporary and that's what relieves your stress, makes you forget about some of your worries. For people that's really good. But for others that's not. Then, they should choose not to smoke it then! And they should stop complaining about the use of Marijuana. By Legalizing it, or Decriminalizing it.. Your creating millions of jobs and the governemnt is getting tax money. And further more, no more people getting in jail for getting cought with a little bit of Pot... and you can have fun with it and stop worrying about getting cought with a little bit of pot to have a good time or relax from work. It's your choice to smoke it. The government is just beeing stubbern and doesn't want to get off their lazy ass to make a few rules for legalzing it and puting a price on it. The US would mature so much more and have so much more peace and happiness... I meen come on, think about the people that actually need this Marijuana... It helps relieve some Medical Problems. Marijuana is the only medication some one can take for certain desieses to relive constant thundering pain. And your going to put some one in jail and make them suffer for just smoking a plant off the ground to make them feel better? Their not harming anyone? No ones dieing? It's called MYODB ( Mind Your Own Damn Buisiness) and stop treeting the US like we're four year olds.... We can choose and make adult desiciouns on our own. We don't need the Government to hold our hand while we smoke some weed to feel better. ... All I'm saying is that it's not fair to do this to your own Country and make people suffer and put them in jail for having their own time to relax and have fun... Oh and the certain thing called Munchies? People eat food, they'll run out of food... They need to buy food.. Their giving a place buisiness for buying their food... Goes for the laughs too... your just having fun and your all relaxed. It's nothing bad at all. Theirs no Long term effectsof Marijuana it's all short term. Ciggerettes are terrbile for you, same with Alchohal.. You can kill people and it harms you in ways you can't fix. Marijuana makes you feel good and helps sooth you. Yeah, they say it's bad for you... All smoke is bad for your lungs... But the Tar from Ciggerettes and the Addicting Nicotine?... Marijuana is not considered an addictive drug. People get that shit screwed up to much. The USA will Mature if you legalize or at LEAST For the love of god... ATLEAST Decriminalize it...
ok lemme jus start off with this i am a junior in hs and ive been smokin weed since i was in like 6th grade..... yes i do bad in school but thts jus me tht has nothin to do with weed...... if it became legal in my opinion people wuldnt smoke it as much because they wuld b smokein every day and it wuld become a routine for them...... and the only reason the government wont legalize it is because they no tht once they do the same things goin to happen people are still goin to grow it and sell it and so on..... so neway none of this made sense onless ur high hahhahaha but if it was legalized there wud deffinitly b a decrese in violence around the country except wen the people at ur local fastfood place gets ur order wrong
On subjects like this one, i am for legalized Marijuana, however its not about the pros and cons of the issue... or individuals that stand to profit. its about who is profiting now, whos getting kickbacks from it! petitions and votes cant change that.
Ok so i just want to clear a few things up here. First if this plant is legalized then it wont cause people to crash their cars and doctors to perform stoned. Chaos will not take over. The only way we can tell if it is a good idea to legalize it is to.......legalize it. Also to anyone who has not tried it dont start ripping it apart because you saw a homeless guy on tv try and get some drugs and you assumed weed did that to him/her. I use this drug nearly every day and i work and go to a university full time. My grades are great and ive never had any problems from using it. Im in great physical condition and go to the gym 4-5 days out of the week. For those who havnt tried it you are pretty functional and its nowhere near being drunk. It truly is a great way to unwind with friends at the end of the day. This drug has been given a bad image and im not saying its good for you but its just not as bad as most people say it is. Just look at it this way. 440,000 deaths per year from tobacco, 85,000 deaths per year from alcohol related incidents, 400,000 deaths per year from poor lifestyle choices (eating fatty foods all day/not exercising), and finally the number of deaths per year from smoking weed is ZERO!!!
cannabis isnt bad for you, if anything its better for you
http://blip.tv/file/1356143/
documentary on why it was legal, why it was prohibitioned, why its not bad and why it SHOULD be legal
The reasons for which cannabis is illegal in the United States go beyond what we are all told in these outrageous commercials on TV. Actually, it is illegal right now for the simple reason that the government can make more money throwing innocent civilians in jail for smoking a joint on a car ride home from a long days work, and also because marijuana enhances the brain in a way of thinking outside the box with more creativity. It makes people question what they are told in essence and that is a very bad thing for our mind-controlling government. You can research the statistics yourself, there has never been a single death as a result of marijuana. Although there has been car accidents in which the driver at fault would fail a blood test for thc, they were also heavily under the influence of a real mind-altering drug (ALCOHOL). This is just an example of an irresponsible user, which will always happen. To the
anonymous writer who foresees doctors practicing stoned, and etc.
Well this is real simple, it is called being responsible about what you do and use in moderation. Alcohol is legal but you do not see many doctors operating wasted do you?? I am also guessing that whoever stated that earlier has never used cannabis, or hasn't in a long long time. My uncle is a dentist and an avid user. He went to college for 8 years and got his doctorate all while smoking marijuana often and he is a very brilliant man. Sorry I took so long but now I will address these anti-drug commercials that single out marijuana. First of all, they say when you use you give up the right to think for yourself. Well actually, when you listen to a corrupt gov't made commercial that tells you what to do, well, that is when you give up the right to think for yourself. DO NOT EVER LET SOMEONE FORM AN OPINION FOR YOU!! Our country was founded on freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and lets not limit ourselves with anything. If you want to argue that marijuana is unethical in a religious standpoint well, just read in the book of Genesis where it states that God has given us every herb that yields seed on the face of the earth to use, and all of these are good and are of God. Now what about the commercial where the little boy apparently sees his mother and sister smoking all of the time and it wears a burn mark in his wrist? Obviously if you have children you would never want to smoke with them around, but where are the commercials that portray a father getting drunk on his couch while watching a football game with his 6 year old son watching and getting him another beer. In reality, alcohol is the drug that collects nearly 100,000 American lives a year. Sorry i went on for too long and if there are alot of gramatical mistakes, i went through it fast just to get out some fact and a little opinion. Peace and Love to ALL
Legalizing this plant could end up very good for this country. If it was legalized the taxation on it could help boost our economy, and create jobs for horticulture, and probably other goverment type jobs for all the cultivation. I think it would also help by making our country even more of a tourist attraction, I'm mean really we would destroy amsterdam in there sale of the plant, and I know foriengers that would much rather go see the Big Apple and smoke some marijuana then go to amsterdam. The only problem with all of this though it would create more trouble with youger people cause legalization would create an age that you are able to use it legally, and I don't think that many people would give all of there plants and everything else up to the goverment so that they had complete control of that whole market. Then again I would probably want to spend $30 for a 20 sack a know that it is some really well grown marijuana, and that freedom is priceless, considering the amount of people who smoke it and get criminalized when they lead full lives and really make a contribution in there communities and jobs. Though there are people who smoke and do nothing but really that not a big of a deal when you have crackheads and other junkies doing the really crimes and making our streets bad.
"It's sad that an Americans character can be judged by their urine." N Hurd
Obama is a screw up and he needs to know America's policies more before he does something stupid again, like the stimulus package. It's sad that alcohol is legal and it does more damage than marijuana does to your body. This is one messed up country. He needs to something about this and it needs to be soon. I agree that cannabis should be legalized. But that is never going to happen under the Obama administration. He'll probably end up legalizing marijuana and stupid stuff like that.
The marijuana prohibition laws of today have failed. Marijuana has literally no dependency. I've smoked it I admit. More than occasionally at one time in my life. I've been sober for some time now and have had literally no dependency. I believe that it should be LEGALIZED to make it SAFER for everyone. Regulating and taxing would benefit everyone. From personal experience it is without any doubt EASIER to get marijuana than it is alcohol! WHY? because alcohol is regulated and you have to be 21 to get it. The same laws that apply for alcohol should be applied for marijuana. Dealing with drug dealers is not only dangerous, it makes you a criminal and it gets you to notice other more dangerous mentally and physically harmful drugs. That is why the gateway theory exists today. You never hear about alcohol leading to other drugs! Why? because its regulated! In the end, if marijuana was legal these problems wouldn't exist and billions of taxpayers dollars would be saved on cracking down on the REAL criminals. LEGALIZE IT
Ah, the Gateway drug theory.
It's worth remembering that while 80% of hard drug users smoked cannabis before taking harder drugs. 100% of hard drug users, used alcohol before taking harder drugs. So be honest now, which is the real gateway drug?
I am a retired cop with 15 years service. is the war on drugs working,no.will it work,no. As far as the pros and cons, as to smoking pot leads you to harder drugs .no..peer pressure leads to harder drugs,or experimenting does though.Not to mention the fact that some parents don't know where or what their kids are doing.the cost of arresting pot heads is to costly to continue.After all California payed state and fed.taxes of 11.Million Dollars on Medical pot. It cost approx. 24.thousand dollars to house one pot head a year.think of the savings and the room for hard core criminals.Myself along with thousands of my fellow law enforcement agree, there are bigger criminals to be caught,legalize it and tax it and fine those dumb enough to bring it out side into the public...As far as our President.The man is the Best thing that has happened to this country ,since John F.Kennedy. I do however believe that Congress should be investigated.....
Legalize and regualte taxation with representation! Land of the FREE and home of the brave No one not even a rat has died from cannabis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It does have medicinal value and properties. It is the safest medicine known to man! Our government had it right the first time!CannaShops.com
It is sad how the American and other people's voice is NOT heard when it comes to our government. America wants a change but the few run the show. It is really sad. this is not a free country anymore.
it is because people like Cindy Mccain hold major stocks in Budweizer which makes this drug legal but it is killing far more than marijuana ever has, In fact marijuana has NEVER killed ANTONE Dave
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If your a cop and you believe in legalizing cannabis I would advise you to just plain don't enforce the law. If you catch someone not doing anything wrong and are just in possession of say like an ounce or less, throw the pot down a storm drain and give them a warning. Unjust laws shouldn't be enforced. If more than 60% of cops chose not to enforce it than what would the Government do? fire, penalize, or replace, that would be a too much of a hassle and they'd have no choice but to relook at the unjust law/s. Lets face it, alcohol causes more problems for law enforcement than pot ever has.
I understand this article is from about a year ago, and with that in mind, can anyone tell me what Obama has said regarding marijuana more recently? I have briefly searched the interweb and am yet to find anything conclusive about his views on the drug. I suppose he just has not made an issue of it yet, what with the economy being so vital right now.
Honestly, I've smoked pot since I was in the 6th grade. I've read every post on here and I do believe that everyone here has great points that never get brought up in the political world, simply for that "FEAR" everyone has with that paranoid thought like "What will such and such think of me if I want to legalize marijuana?" A lot of you listen to fellow law abiding citizens that are yes... lazy and can't make decisions for themselves in a free society. Isn't our country so hypocritical? Most Americans that post on this thread AGAINST the decrim. or legalization of Marijuana need to honestly have their own personal experiences with the use of the herb. You can't predict anything like car crashes and people just being randomly stupid killing themselves. Do you really hear yourself? I can go down to the liquor store RIGHT NOW and get a bottle of 100 proof and you'd be fine with that right? Knowing how Alcohol can change a persons personality into the ugliest thing you've ever had to come across or deal with, not to mention the self destructive behavior people get when they do drink such as the lack of inhibitions that you don't get when smoking Marijuana. You really need to use it yourself before you judge it, and the part about police and everyone being so high they can't do their jobs? are you kidding me? do you know how many of your fellow police offices in your city or how many sheriffs in your county smoke pot? do you know how many doctors smoke marijuana? do you have any Idea how many E.M.T.'s out there that smoke pot? Do you know how many teachers at your school are smoking pot on their breaks right across the street off campus? As someone Growing up in Stockton California, I've witnessed it in all shapes and forms. Just because you might not know who's smoking doesn't mean they aren't. Also, When you say that about people from every social class no matter what their profession, you're just calling the general public of the American people irresponsible junkies. Who knows maybe your husband or wife smokes and hides it from you because their afraid of your twisted ideals in listening to everyone else and what's said in the media. Call the American people idiots one more time, and remember... you're one of us so you're an idiot just as much as those you disrespect. It has economical and industrious potential, not just medical. Do your research while smoking so you can focus and maybe that information will stick. Sucks that Americans are too busy worrying about how to survive, and then the Govt. knowingly causing slow genocide with alcohol and tobacco. Some of the main reasons why Marijuana has not been legalized is Money, Pharmaceutical Companies would lose money if they didn't adopt Marijuana for use as a safe alternative for many medications they are making billions off of when they are bad for your body and carry long term side effects, a lot of companies would be out of business, but for the better as to not pollute the human body and genes so that we do not wear our genes too thin or cause abnormalities in the far future. Sterility/impotency is one of the biggest issues in America right now. The Pharmaceutical companies have done this, it's a long term effect and also (i may sound crazy but...) a part of population control, reason why tobacco and alcohol, more harmful recreational products are legal and remain so. If the Government can step aside and let the people talk for once I'm sure the voice would be heard, and I know we'd all win on a national vote to legalize Marijuana, there are so many closet users, hell even the cop that stopped you last night could have had a joint to go with his coffee during break, but you wouldn't be able to tell one bit cause the coffee would cover the smell and the caffeine would nullify the "calming(chill)" effect of the herb. I'm 24 years old now... I can say my memory hasn't gotten any worse, if anything it's gotten better and I can recall memory's even dreams I've had a a child I can bring up memories (FULL memories) of my childhood vivid details and even how I felt at the time. How many of you non-smokers have that luxury?
Honestly do I sound Stupid for the high-school drop out that I am? I can tell you that that had nothing to do with drugs but gangs... really those need to be dealt with before the war on drugs... deal with them and you'll have less street dealing and less crime do to the fact that street dealers cause a lot of violence and those that try to steal from them.
p.s. dropping out of high school does not make you an unintelligent individual, if the public system wasn't right for you go private or home school yourself. I did neither... begged to take my G.E.D. my A+, and Business Tech finals all at once within the first 2 weeks of my vocational training. * I had previous self taught technological experience because I was bored out of my mind without a school to go to and I am the smartest person I've ever met... Simply because I kept my head out of the books and in "reality" so to speak. Some people may be smart enough to live in the "richie' rich college I'm smarter than you because of my degree" kind of life, but they wouldn't be able to survive in my city... No matter how hard they tried. Street smarts is what matters most when it comes to survival. If all you know are books, is that what you're going to go to when survival of the fittest becomes a priority in life? or would you rather learn from the bottom up, but not too far up to where you forget yourself. Street smarts will get you farther in life than a piece of paper that said you wrote on paper for a certain period of time and just basically re-wrote what was in a book but in your own words... is that really learning? bet you'll forget most of it after you graduate and get stuck looking for a job in the field you chose that is so limited and no openings in because you were so dumb you didn't pay attention to REALITY...
and to those that say that we don't need to have a government to depend on for our drugs... well hate to break it to you but, isn't that already the truth? we depend on them to stay healthy, to ease pain... how dumb can you be with a statement like that? You just made the "smarter" population that you love to associate yourself as look incredibly redundant and honestly talking before thinking... Stupid robots...
p.s.s. Anon posted: "The reasons for which cannabis is illegal in the United States go beyond what we are all told in these outrageous commercials on TV. Actually, it is illegal right now for the simple reason that the government can make more money throwing innocent civilians in jail for smoking a joint on a car ride home from a long days work, and also because marijuana enhances the brain in a way of thinking outside the box with more creativity. It makes people question what they are told in essence and that is a very bad thing for our mind-controlling government. You can research the statistics yourself, there has never been a single death as a result of marijuana. Although there has been car accidents in which the driver at fault would fail a blood test for thc, they were also heavily under the influence of a real mind-altering drug (ALCOHOL). This is just an example of an irresponsible user, which will always happen. To the
anonymous writer who foresees doctors practicing stoned, and etc.
Well this is real simple, it is called being responsible about what you do and use in moderation. Alcohol is legal but you do not see many doctors operating wasted do you?? I am also guessing that whoever stated that earlier has never used cannabis, or hasn't in a long long time. My uncle is a dentist and an avid user. He went to college for 8 years and got his doctorate all while smoking marijuana often and he is a very brilliant man. Sorry I took so long but now I will address these anti-drug commercials that single out marijuana. First of all, they say when you use you give up the right to think for yourself. Well actually, when you listen to a corrupt gov't made commercial that tells you what to do, well, that is when you give up the right to think for yourself. DO NOT EVER LET SOMEONE FORM AN OPINION FOR YOU!! Our country was founded on freedom. Freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and lets not limit ourselves with anything. If you want to argue that marijuana is unethical in a religious standpoint well, just read in the book of Genesis where it states that God has given us every herb that yields seed on the face of the earth to use, and all of these are good and are of God. Now what about the commercial where the little boy apparently sees his mother and sister smoking all of the time and it wears a burn mark in his wrist? Obviously if you have children you would never want to smoke with them around, but where are the commercials that portray a father getting drunk on his couch while watching a football game with his 6 year old son watching and getting him another beer. In reality, alcohol is the drug that collects nearly 100,000 American lives a year. Sorry i went on for too long and if there are alot of gramatical mistakes, i went through it fast just to get out some fact and a little opinion. Peace and Love to ALL
February 5, 2009 5:22 PM"
I love you, Unity in Legalization and World Peace.
pure genius ^^^
okay people im a pothead, all my friends smoke pot, my mom and dad, and my brothers and sister i mean even my grandapa smokes pot and honstly show me some one who has ever overdoesed on pot, you can drink youself to death and smoke ciggaretts to your death but they are still legal.
pot is not a drug you dont have to mix chemicals to make it, the shit grows on it own, pot has 3 main effects on you wich are HUNGRY, HAPPY, AND TIRED.
and the best thing about pot is that you meet many different people and that you think of thing that most people dont.
sammygurl you are absolutly retarted and dont know what you aren talking about you druggie
Thomas you are dumb. Sammygurl does know what shes talking about. you dont.
Thomas is really retarted, seriously he knowns nothing about cannibus. Didnt even know what it was. so how does he know? hes dumb.
corey you are also retarted and our class is about to end you druggie
I think the legalization of Marijuana is really some of our only last choices due to our economic position with this recession and all. I Mean Marijuana is not a drug, its an herb, alcohol is 10x worse then Marijuana, how many deaths have been filed for Marijuana?? NONE, now there is a lot of alcohol related deaths, due to intoxicated driving, alcohol poisoning blah blah blah.
I can blaze as much weed as I want and go cruise around and not even get close to wrecking, when your drunk your gunna wreck 7 out of 10. Theres a drunk driving wreck everyday, or an alcohol related death, none for marijuana, and we can tax marijuana just like cigarettes and alcohol, so i think it should be legal, it aint harming no one, i mean our president used to shoot up heroin
I honestly think that it should be legalized. one the taxes on it alone could bail out our economy. but you also have to think about the tax money saved for not incarcerating people for posession. it is the best thing for our economy to do. also medical benifits why is alcohol legal it dosnt have any benifits. i would much rather burn down on a bag of bud then to get down on a bottle. you dont get a hang over from smokin pot. you cant pass out on your back then drown in your own puke from smoking pot. and marijuana makes everything better. it makes food taste better. it makes shitty movies better. hell it even makes sex feel better. there are a hell of alot of pro's to legalizing it and almost no con's. So to all you politions out there blaze a fatty and think about it. and for those of you that read it email me and tell m what you think ben_stiritz0423@yahoo.com
i agree with legalization, or at least decrim.
Just think about all the deaths of alcohol or cigarettes, and the lack of deaths related to pot. I smoke socially, and my grades are fine. several friends of mine drink way too much, and their grades or lives are not fine.
I have not smoked weed for approx. one year and 8 months because my job does not allow it. Obviously there are many different advantages to marijuana over cigarettes and alcohol. But my question to the politicians would be how they are going to implement any regulations on this natural herb, and why hasn't it been done sooner. This is supposed to be a free country, but the amount of laws and regulations make it impossible to practice any of our natural rights. John Locke's ideals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were implemented in the Constitution of the United States. And in my opinion, not being able to smoke marijuana when others can smoke a plethera of different types of cigarettes is constricting to the individual citizen and the freedom of our country. I have felt constricted during this period of time because I can see others being able to relax with their cigarette, or a beer if they are of age, but I am unable to relax with a marijuana pipe. It is against the constitution, the Bible, and our God given right to persue happiness.
I agree with most marijuana-supporting comments on this forum. I believe some very strong intellectual points have been made here. I believe these comments should be shown to some of our political leaders, and we should include the anti-marijuana comments as well to prove the arrogant, sophomoric, and just plain stupid ways of thinking and the writing styles they have developed. If you are going to try to debate against a certain topic or group of people that believe in the same idea, you must express your thoughts and beliefs with intelligible reasoning and facts, not just an unintelligible comment such as: "NUH-UH!!! UR DUM! POTS STUPED Y WUD U WANNA WAISTE UR LYFE LYKE THAT?" and "If people are allowed to smoke pot legally, everyone will be stoned and it will be a social apocalypse."
Comments such as those show a strong point that of the majority of people that are against marijuana use have little to no facts to support their answers, as the statement, "Pot makes you dumb and forget things." is not true, and there are scientific facts to prove this. For more information on marijuana, go to WWW.Erowid.com, the most unbiased website for drug facts.
But please, if anyone can, let's at least try to get this to a politician and open his closed mind up a little.
-AlexMarijuanameister
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/26/obama-takes-pot-legalizat_n_179563.html
yea...he said no its not a good idea. just go to that link and watch the interview on the subject.
I read most of the comments and am stunned at the ones who want to keep marijuana illegal. How stupid do you think users are? They have just as much sense and in my experience are much more pleasant than being around someone who drinks. I know alot of people in high places who smoke and do a fine job. And keep in mind, the users who are lazy and pretty much worthless to society are usually chronic alcoholics. I know a guy who is totally anti-pot who is loud, mean, nasty and a drunk. I would rather be around a pot smoker. If I had to choose a substance that my children had to take up, it would be MARIJUANA!
I can't help in reading these comments and the news post just before it to notice that a huge topic is being missed here. The fact is if marijuana was legalized our national debt would be wiped out in less than four years!!! If the money currently used for the war on marijuana and that used for incarceration of users was ALL put directly into the national debt! We could bail out the country in four years! All by legalizing something that is far far less harmful than a cigarette. I feel there is no reason that in the 21 century we should still be held down by the prejudguces of those who were around for the beginning of the 20th! I respect our elder generation but lets face it a lot has changed since there day. It's time to make some updates to our country and our way of thinking. I'm tired of wasting my tax money! Are you?
I think that if they legalize it less people would be in jail thus reducing tax because we dont have to pay for the assholes that are in jail.
The amount of people who are jailed for marijuana related crimes trumps the number of people jailed for violent crimes significantly. It was outlawed in order to put a hold on the amount of cheap mexican labor coming into the united states, not because it is a dangerous drug to society.
Also, the current push towards the decriminalization of it only encourages youth to deal drugs. One can now only have to worry about a small fine and the loss of their drug while still running a very profitable pot trafficing business.
The war on drugs will not solve anything. In the wild as soon as a niche opens up for survival a species will fill that spot. The same is true with drug dealers, as soon as the resident drug dealer is locked up someone else will take the oppurtunity to fill his position.
Complete legalization will illiminate roughly 800,000 marijuana related incarcerations, saving tax payers millions of dollars. Not to mention the mass of legitimate jobs that will become available from the manufacturing of the drug as well as the money that will be poured into the economy through the taxation of it.
Legalizing marijuana will massively lower the amount of tax payer dollars being poured into our justice system, as well as generate new jobs and stimulate the economy. I see absolutely no reason why it has not already occured.
LEGALIZE POT!!!!!!!!!
Yes, The Netherlands is the only place in the world weed is 100% legal, and guess where you'll find this country? On every top ten list of the best placest to live in the world. It is home to some of the world's happiest, healthiest, and most financially secure people in this world. EVERYBODY SMOKES MARIJUANA. The only negative health effects known to date due to smoking weed is short-term memory loss (quite obviously) and increased problems with people who already have pre-existing conditions like heart, liver, and immune problems. The people want what they want. We will keep toking no matter what the laws are, so why not make it legal and stimulate our SHIT economy and lower the use of hardcore drugs?
-One Love-
Perhaps we would be far better off by using a more human and realistic approach to those using small amounts of the weed or possession of same by examining just what purpose we have in mind by criminalizing this herb. Is it to fill up prisons with offenders given unreasonably long terms for their recreational use or medicinal use. What a cluster. In Missouri we just build more prisons and destroy way too many lives with this stupid approach. Job security for lawyers, cops, judges and correctional employees. Yuk!! Proactively wouldn't it be advantageous to reverse this insanity and grow the stuff for use as the amazing renewable source for the many uses it really has...i.e clothing-paper-etc.
I'm so sick of hearing about how the USA can never legalize marijuana because of all of our treaty commitments on drugs. Please!...when has a treaty ever stopped the USA from doing what it wanted? We signed plenty of treaties outlawing unprovoked, military aggression against other nations - but that didn't stop the ridiculous 2003 Invasion of Iraq for no reason. We signed treaties against aerial bombing of civilian areas under our military control - and that didn't stop anything. And what about all the treaties against any form of torture on any person - that didn't even begin to stop all the outrages of Guantanamo and Abu Gharib. And that's just a quick summary - there's much more. So to hell with drug treaties! Let Obama slap a "signing statement" on the back of each treaty (a la "W").
LTJ
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