Wednesday, September 24, 2008

READER COMMENTS

WHERE HAVE ALL THE BOYS GONE?

Maybe Nature has finally realized what an evolutionary dead-end the human male really is (disastrous to his fellow beings, other species, and the very planet itself) and has wisely decided to begin phasing him out of the equation.

BUSH PROPOSES COUP BY EMERGENCY LEGISLATION

Sec. 6. Maximum Amount of Authorized Purchases. The Secretary's authority to purchase mortgage-related assets under this Act shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding at any one time

At any one time means no limit total. they can refill the credit card over and over.

COLLEGE PRESIDENTS SAY IT'S TIME TO RETHINK DRINKING LAWS

This is a nation that already has too high of a drinking related death rate. Lowering the drinking age here is going to raise those numbers. What we need to be doing is re-thinking our national culture of (and attitudes about) drinking; in most European countries, the young are exposed to alcohol usage in much more responsible ways; which likely increases the odds that they will handle alcohol usage much more responsibly as young adults. In this country, kids are generally introduced to drinking and alcohol in the most irresponsible ways possible--just another facet of our screwed-up culture. Unless we start getting mature enough to face this about ourselves and acting on that knowledge, lowering the drinking age is not going to solve anything.

Between 1982 and 1992, in spite of raising the drinking age to 21, the United States experienced a lower rate of decline in alcohol-related traffic fatalities than in the following countries (no other countries were examined in the report):

United Kingdom: 50% decline
Germany: 37% decline
Australia: 32% decline
The Netherlands: 28% decline
Canada: 28% decline
United States: 26% decline

This downward trend in drunk driving across the industrialized world shows quite clearly that the 21-year old drinking age in the United States was, at best, the least effective measure to limit drunk driving amongst these developed countries.

Stupid laws erode respect for the law. That and government officials who ignore the laws themselves.

OBAMA PADS HIS RESUME

What's more, should one happen to pay some attention to the roll calls on various Senate votes, is Barry's absence. A pattern conspicuous in that it appears the likelihood of the Illinois Junior Senator's presence is in inverse ratio to the controversiality of the bill being voted upon.

NEARLY ALL POPULATION GROWTH TAKING PLACE IN LESS WEALTHY COUNTRIES

There's an obvious consequence
to the dynamics suggested by these numbers. As a species, we will either rein in our appetites, both literal and figurative, or we will starve to death. The situation is similar regarding weaponry: we will either devise a way to curb our natural, human aggressiveness, or we will kill ourselves off - especially considering how increasingly lethal weaponry has become. We have reached a point where we have the know-how to create hell on earth. Ultimately we will discover that we need some kind of religion. Without some kind of moral compass that reaches beyond profit-taking and utility, we are doomed. Simply doomed.

The power elite have already made life hell on earth for many people. Often they do it under the banner of religion, and religion teaches people to just sit on their hands while injustice happens. Maybe you need religion, that is, if you are incapable of any ethics or moral compass on your own. Many of the rest of us are not so morally challenged as to need religion to take meaningful beneficial action.

Too bad your 'moral compass' does not point more directly towards civility.

Where religion is concerned, we are way past the point of civility. The world is being destroyed by fundamentalist idiots from three religions which all worship the same god. Their hatred of each other (basically over whose "prophets" are "correct") far exceeds their hatred of those with other gods or no god at all. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are, taken together, a blight on the world that has brought humanity to the edge of extinction. All three must become extinct themselves before there will be any possibility of peace and civility.

What is the freaking point of this article? Is this really progressive news? Looks a hell of a lot more like a Malthusian psychological press release from some Rockefeller neo-eugenic project. What is the progressive point of getting us developed white liberal westerners all feared up about immigration (invasion) and population growth (explosion) in less developed countries? You continue to publish the Malthusian population crap on this website regularly. You just might get us progressive liberals in the right frame of mind for whatever depopulation measures need to be taken (or just happen to happen) to ease the stress on carrying capacity. When you know damn well it is the political economics of power, capitalism, imperialism and over-consumption by US (you and me) who are the problem. - Gas Pants

So exactly what non-malthusian resources are going to miraculously appear to make your utopia possible.

Thank you for publishing informational articles on overpopulation and future population trends, even though a few perceptually challenged folks will always scream "Malthus! Malthus!" no matter how factually the pieces are written.

WHY BRITISH PUBS ARE STILL IMPORTANT

Why are they still important? Good God, man. Could nothing be more obvious? They still serve real ale on draft.

This study is past due for an update. Given the proper grants, I would gladly volunteer my time to perform more field research in the pubs of my choice. -xilii

MCCAIN IS AN ADDICTIVE GAMBLER

"Craps is an absurd game of luck. You may have thrilling short term wins but only madmen play craps."

Spoken like a true poker player. Funny, I've heard the same said of poker by craps players. It's kinda like the whose bitter rivalry between the Navy and Marine Corps.

SQUEAKER ELECTIONS

Elections must be squeakers because if they were not, and the Demo had a substantial lead, progressives might just sneak off en masse and vote for third party candidates. Can't have the unwashed empowering progressive third parties, now can we? Must keep them scared shitless that the greater-evil will win so they'll embrace the lesser-evil as savior and forget about building a movement. Hence the necessity for Squeakerville.

THE CRASH

Maybe the Democrats can muster the votes to pass a non-binding resolution in favor of a unspecified timetable for the country's getting out of debt. After they give Bush & Paulsen a blank check. That'll show 'em!

Yes, people lost their homes because they were at the end of their rope. But, please do not forget, in many cases the rope was greased. - Joseph

This isn't about people losing their shelter. It's about foolishness, greed, and hubris. In California, as one example, individuals were purchasing houses not as homes, but as short term investments that allowed the immediate extraction of cold hard cash along with enough profit potential to settle all debts incurred and adding more cold hard cash in less than five years. Why else would anyone be stupid enough to agree to five-year-interest-only notes terminating with a balloon payment of total principal? For many people, their job
was flipping their property. The whole notion of it all was akin to a giant Ponzi scheme.

Another sad aspect of this insanity and mad building spree has been the irrevocable destruction of one of our most precious possessions, arable farm land. Some of the most fertile and productive soils in the world have been sacrificed to the bull dozier to build unneeded housing tracts in regions without the natural resources to support them. And on it continues...


Plain and simple: an administration that requests a $700 billion 'fix' brings its resignations in the same package. Any banks that get toxic crap taken off their hands become government property and exec salaries get reset to government employee levels. Any past bonuses paid by these companies to those people get deducted from current pay.

No bailout unless we get out of Iraq and Afganistan and introduce single payer healthcare - Bruce


America, the problem with these people is not that they didn't know what they were doing, the problem is they knew what they were doing and did it anyway.

THE LIST: WHAT A TRILLION DOLLARS WILL BUY

The cost of the trillion dollar bailout is higher than the $3200 figure specified. If we had the money in hand, then that would be an appropriate figure. But we have to borrow it and pay interest on it. A rough estimate is to triple the cost, and $10,000 is a lot closer to the real cost of the current level of the bailout.

Would a trillion feed any starving children or elders, buy them medicine, or maybe shoes? I get the point, but what a disgusting list.

PALIN WANTS CREATION FANTASY TAUGHT:

An honest and conscientious student of theology understands that the book we call the Bible was never intended to be taken literally. For one thing, heavenly inspired or not, the text we have before us remains the work of man. By definition derived from the very same Bible, all works of man fall short of perfection. Even if the words may have been divinely inspired, their rendering into text is the product of human endeavor. With each and every translation and revision the work becomes ever more imperfect. No matter how much scholarship may be involved, we can not escape the fact that the testimony contained remains hearsay. All of this is not to say that the Bible can not be a valuable source of guidance and inspiration---I believe it is, as are many of the other scriptures associated with the other great religions. Nevertheless, literal interpretation can be a demonstrably wrong endeavor---witness I Kings 7:23 and II Chronicles 4:2. Anyone with the most basic understanding of mathematics will recognize the problem.

Should one be inclined to accept Biblical prophesy regarding the end times, one ought to be consistent regarding its interpretation and the role of the United States. Other than the mysterious Great Harlot, there appears to be little or no mention of much of anything that might be construed as representing the US during the final days. The Biblical implication is that the United Stated ceased being a nation of significant international influence. At the rate that we are divesting our national assets, transplanting and outsourcing our manufacturing, and over extending our military while exhausting our treasury with imperial adventurism, it is one piece of prophesy that appears headed towards fulfillment.

Biblically, man was granted freewill. Biblically, we have the power to recognize disaster and avert it. Paul tells us that we prophesy in part and that anything is possible. "Love never fails; but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part and prophesy in part."

Just as Abraham didn't have to sacrifice Isaac, we do not have to annihilate one another with Armageddon. Biblically, we told that love never fails. Our objective is peace. Anything is possible. Unfortunately, it appears these concepts and ideas have been revised away in the new interpretations of the Bible commonly read by the heretic religious right.

A famous, yet unverified, quote by Mae Fergusson, first female governor of Texas: if the King James version of the Bible was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me.

ALGORITHM FINDS OBAMA WILL WIN DESPITE LOW ELECTABILITY

Al Gore has rhythm?

14 Comments:

At September 25, 2008 9:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since most of the current Jews in the world are descendents of southern Asians and the eastern Europeans they converted, the only remnants of the people mentioned in Revelation are the Palestinians. The American evangelicals, by opposing them, are on the side of Revelation's anti-Christ.

 
At September 25, 2008 10:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

They can't say they weren't warned.
From the prophet Habakkuk:

"Woe to him who builds a city with bloodshed and establishes a town by iniquity!"

"Woe to him who makes his neighbors drink the dregs of fury, and makes them drunk that he may look on their nakedness!
You are filled with dishonor instead of glory; drink yourself also and stagger, for the cup of the Lord's right hand shall came round to you, and shame shall cover your glory.
For the violence of Lebanon shall cover you, and the plundering of the beasts shall trouble you because of the blood of men, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all who dwell therein."

 
At September 25, 2008 5:12 PM, Blogger Patricia Burns said...

ALL nations will come against Jerusalem (Zech.14:2 below) at the Sixth TRUMPET. That would include the United States.


Zech.14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished: and half the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.




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At September 26, 2008 9:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All nations would also include Andorra, Togo, and Liechtenstein. But, that doesn't mean either of these are nations of influence. Patricia, you absolutely establish my point regarding the eventual insignificance of the United States. Now consider the following:

"Come, I will show you the condemnation of the great harlot who sits upon many waters.
With whom the kings of the earth have committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her adultery.
So he carried me away in spirit into the wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast inscribed with many words of blasphemy and having seven heads and ten horns.
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls;
and she had a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her adultery on the earth.
And upon her forehead was a name written that not all could understand: BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And I saw the woman was drunk with the blood of saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus; and when I saw her, I wondered with great amazement."
--from Revelation 17

Now, how many nations extending influence across the world's waters, in the service of Mammon and 'drunk with the blood of saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus' can you identify?

Again, I'll remind you. Paul tells us to hope all things---that includes the prospect of universal goodwill, accord, and peace.
As initially stated before:
"Just as Abraham didn't have to sacrifice Isaac, we do not have to annihilate one another with Armageddon. Biblically, we told that love never fails. Our objective is peace. Anything is possible. Unfortunately, it appears these concepts and ideas have been revised away in the new interpretations of the Bible commonly read by the heretic religious right."

 
At September 26, 2008 10:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patricia, as an assumed literalist, perhaps you can address the mathematical problem presented I Kings 7:23 and II Chronicles 4:2?

 
At September 26, 2008 4:45 PM, Blogger Patricia Burns said...

Mystery Babylon -

Mystery Babylon is a CITY (Re.18:10, Re.18:16, Re.18:18-19). It is the CITY "where also our Lord was crucified" (Re.11:8, Heb.13:12).

The mystery of Babylon the great is that it is the holy city Jerusalem which will play a dual role once the false prophet sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God (2 Thess.2:4).

The holy city Jerusalem is the pleasant land (Dan.8:9); it is the faithful city which has become an harlot (Isa.1:21),

There is a curse on Jerusalem in this earth; in the new earth there will be no more curse (Re.22:3). Because there is a curse, Jerusalem will play a dual role - one: the holy city Jerusalem, and, secondly, that great city Babylon (Re.18:10).

Also note at Re.21:10 that in the new earth the holy city Jerusalem's name is complete, "that great city, the holy Jerusalem".

Revelation17:9 states that the seven heads (Re.17:3) on the scarlet colored beast are seven mountain on which the woman sits. The seven continents of the earth are the seven mountains. In the beginning, the waters of the earth covered the mountains (Ps.104:6). Today we live upon that portion of the mountains protruding from the waters.

The many waters Babylon sits upon represents peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues (Re.17:15). Therefore, Babylon's power will be worldwide and will involve all of its people.

The beast of Revelation 13:11 (the false prophet) is seen as the scarlet colored beast once his sits in that great city Babylon.

The false prophet worships a god his fathers knew not (Dan.11:38), a god of forces, that great city Babylon, and honors her with riches (Re.17:4, Re.18:16).

The horns/kings on the scarlet colored beast’s head (Re.17:16-18) play their role upon the world scene as they come against the great city Babylon and fight the battle of Armageddon.


Patricia (©)

 
At September 26, 2008 4:48 PM, Blogger Patricia Burns said...

I am sorry; I have not studied on those particular Scriptures.

I have studied on the time frames spoken of in the books of Daniel and Revelation.


Patricia

 
At September 26, 2008 5:24 PM, Anonymous daver said...

'"Craps is an absurd game of luck. You may have thrilling short term wins but only madmen play craps."'

"Spoken like a true poker player. Funny, I've heard the same said of poker by craps players. It's kinda like the whose bitter rivalry between the Navy and Marine Corps."

No, it's not. There are some things for which math can provide the definitive answer, and this is one of them. Vegas makes money because many many americans are so thick they cannot perceive and absorb even established fact (let alone things requiring a modicum of judgement). Why else do you think we have today's republican party?

 
At September 28, 2008 9:28 PM, Anonymous We are all the chosen ones said...

I have found you can "prove" any point Biblically by quoting short Bible passages out of context. Just ask William Miller.

 
At September 29, 2008 12:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this thread has succeeded in demonstrating thus far is how utterly ludicrous it is to spout biblical texts in place of rational, critical thought on real-world issues of any kind.

 
At September 29, 2008 6:21 PM, Blogger Patricia Burns said...

Precept upon Precept -

I believe that one needs to pray before one begins to study the Scriptures.

I believe that one must believe the Bible, as it is “written”; not read more into a verse than there is; as one example - believe the words of end-time prophecy: year, day, hour, as they are “written”.

I believe one should study as instructed at Isaiah 28:10, below.

I believe the Holy Spirit opens ones spiritual eyes. I also believe that insight comes from divine revelation through the Holy Spirit.


Isa.28:10 For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, [and] there a little:



Patricia © Bible Prophecy on the Web
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At September 29, 2008 11:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patricia,
Here's the problem, not everything in the Bible, as it is written, is true. Presented in the scriptures, if taken literally, are untruths. Hence my examples from I Kings 7:23 and II Chronicles 4:2. The passages describe a massive casting of a bronze basin, or as it is rendered in the text, a molten sea. We are informed that this molten sea was ten cubits in diameter and thirty cubits in circumference---a mathematical impossibility considering the ratio of pi, the circumference should have been 31.1415927 cubits. Bear in mind that the ancient Egyptians had been calculating pi to approximately 3 and 1/7, about 3.14 several centuries before I Kings was ever written.
Given that the scribes who originally transcribed the texts may not have recognized the discrepancy, certainly the error had to be recognized at some latter date. We are after all dealing with a technological culture that was able to smelt and alloy copper on a highly sophisticated level. The processes they employed rivaled those applied almost two millennia by Bessemer. So, why wasn't the text adjusted accordingly at some earlier date? Can it be that from the earliest traditions the Bible was recognized as a flawed and imperfect work of man--the literal message was not the point, it is the concepts conveyed through the texts that matter?
I pray and seek guidance every day. Everyday reaffirms my Christian belief that we are told that Love never fails. Our objective is PEACE. Anything is possible--you can say to the mountain move, and with enough Faith...
Above all, Just as Abraham didn't have to sacrifice Isaac, we do not have to annihilate one another with Armageddon.
Peace

 
At September 30, 2008 12:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One additional point.
Pre-emptive attacks, shock and awe, extraordinary rendition, secret prisons, torture, concentration encampments behind thirty foot walls are not expressions of Love and serve little good in the propagation of Peace, goodwill, and brotherly accord.
How can anyone call themselves Christian who is not speaking out and doing everything within their power to condemn and abolish these abominations. This especially means calling Israel to task for the daily atrocities and humiliation they have imposed upon the indigenous Palestinians. Supposedly the Israelis have a Covenant to stand as an example of God's way to the rest of the world--they are sorely in breach of contract.

 
At September 30, 2008 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should be no secret by now, that the more loudly one proclaims oneself to be a "Christian" the less likely one is to be Christ-like in one's actions and ethical precepts.

 

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