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May 3, 2009


David Edwards and John Byrne, Raw Story - In little-noticed comments, the former White House counsel for President Richard Nixon John Dean said Thursday that former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice may have unwittingly admitted to a criminal conspiracy when questioned about torture by a group of student videographers at Stanford. . .

In a video that surfaced Thursday, Rice said, "The president instructed us that nothing we would do would be outside of our obligation, legal obligations under the convention against torture. . . I conveyed the authorization of the administration to the agency. And so by definition, if it was authorized by the president, it did not violate our obligations under the Convention Against Torture."

Her comments raised eyebrows from online observers, who compared Rice's answer to that of Richard Nixon's infamous quip: "When the President does it, that means that it's not illegal."

Dean said he found Rice's comments "surprising"and put her in a legal mire of possible conspiracy.

"She tried to say she didn't authorize anything, then proceeded to say she did pass orders along to the CIA to engage in torture if it was legal by the standard of the Department of Justice," Dean said. "This really puts her right in the middle of a common plan, as it's known in international law, or a conspiracy, as it's known in American law, and this indeed is a crime. If it indeed happened the way we think it did happen.". . .

Olbermann asked Dean whether Obama was violating the Geneva Conventions prohibiting torture himself by refusing to prosecute those responsible.

"He is indeed is in violation if the United States does not undertake investigation of this, or ultimately prosecution, if that's necessary," Dean asserted. "It's not only the Geneva Convention; the Convention Against Torture also requires this. There are no exceptions with torture. There are no real things like "torture light." The world community I think is going to hold the United States responsible, and if we don't proceed, somebody is going to proceed."


Anonymous robbie said...

Even if forced to, the Democrats won't do anything about it. I don't think there has even been a more feckless and ineffective group of people in the history of the world.

May 4, 2009 7:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if we waterboarded them?

May 4, 2009 11:31 PM  

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